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[Hidden Sun Clan] - Tinsae Mâbor'a (Starship Sensors)

The Quantum Flux Detector has a few issues such as how it would read all the quantum states in a region without changing all the quantum states in a region (Heisenberg’s uncertainty principal). It makes the assumption that all hyperspace fold drives produce some sort of detectable emergence point and that it can detect anything using FTL even though some FTL involves leaving the universe and wouldn’t leave a direct point A to point B type trail.

Sense it is so vague in what it does and how it does it, I don’t see how a player could reasonably be expected to understand how to interact with it.
 
And Yet the MEGAMI and MIKO both have the ability to scan the quantum state of the space around them.

MEGAMI said:
detect and calculate the probability wave front of a major quantum events (such as hyperspace folds
Range of 2 LY
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So exactly what type of FTL is not going to leave a trail, because all the major factions can track a ship in FTL.

Let alone the fact that unlike most of the others this has a very limited range. 10 AU versus LY's
 
I actually find this to be kind of underpowered, really, compared to other Factions.

But seeing something that has flaws, and can see improvement as the Setting progresses is a good sight to see amongst all the recent submissions that try to be the Best That They Can Be.

I recommend this article for Approval!
 
Megami is also teleportation based, which opens up another entire can of worms but at least players know that interdiction will block the sensor system. The WARMS and PARADOX systems would likely not be approved if they were submitted today, but they do remain grandfathered in to some extent. These are also active sensor systems.

Hyperspace and wormhole travel involve stepping outside of the universe briefly so you don't actually pass through the points between A and B. Gravity wells still effect them but that is about it. I don't see why they would change individual particles.

In addition, particles at that size don't really give off enough radiation to show what state they are in (and when they do, the change states!) so it would be impossible to passively scan for them or monitor their changes without constantly bombarding them with something that would bounce off and show what state they are in.


It would be far better if you just gave 'detect FTL' functionality to the subspace radar and removed the quantum flux alltogether.
 
A lot of people just went "...Wut?"

First off, I know only a little bit about wormholes, and likely more than the average guy on the street. I never knew you stepped 'outside of the universe' with a Wormhole, or that such a theoretical beast even truly existed. I also don't understand how it applies to this submission, and no one understands Hyperspace at all simply because it doesn't exist. It's subject to interpretation of the site, and in the past the interpretation was that you could monitor quantum particles.

Secondly,
particles at that size don't really give off enough radiation to show what state they are in (and when they do, the change states!) so it would be impossible to passively scan for them or monitor their changes without constantly bombarding them with something that would bounce off and show what state they are in.
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More science that most people barely understand. (Even the scientists who made that statement.)

But I'll help to address it anyway. In a million years after our current date (2010), I see that it's possible for a great deal to happen. Up to and including the ability to passively scan a quantum particle. We've already stated on this site that it can happen, so why is it such an issue for this submission to scan these same particles?
 
You can't say you don't understand and then claim you shouldn't have to!

We're going by the current definitions on the site. If you don't understand how the NTSE works you can post a question in the Questions Forum.
 
1.) When did I say I didn't understand? I thought I said I barely understood?

2.) Why should I have to know the math behind a Wormhole? Why should we have a Ph.D. in physics?

And if we're going by the current 'definitions' of this site, then why isn't this being approved? By those definitions, this is perfectly fine.
 
Previously tech like this has required active sensors, teleport technology, and hasn't been used for this type of work (event prediction vs event detection).

That aside, 'quantum flux' falls right into the bad technobable category of the submission guidelines. Again, it would be best to simply remove it.
 
If there is something wrong in the format, ask them to change it -- not to explain it.

And you've stated my point: It has been used in the past, why shouldn't it be used now? And if it requires active sensors, would you allow him to change the article to reflect as much?

(As a side note: You have been warned for abusing the Report Post tool.)
 
We don't use it now for the same reasons we try not to include Imperial Star Destroyers, Black Hole Guns, and Zesuiam.
 
First the Subspace Sensors already cover tracking ships that are in FTL.

The Quantum Flux Detector is not trying to scan the individual molecules as much as its looking for indications of quantum activity, it is designed to ensure that it is safe to for them to make a wormhole, and detect ships coming out of fold.

I have updated that section to reflect this and removed the determining direction etc.
 
Wes said he was ok with the QF sensor in chat, though tech like that should really be avoided in the future.

Approved
 
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