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Rejected Submission International Currency Exchange Update

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FrostJaeger

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Banned Member
For Reviewers:
  • Contains Unapproved Sub-Articles? No.
  • Contains New Art? No.
  • Previously Submitted? Yes; rejected by Staff.
  • Changelog: Link
  • Checklist Requested? Yes.

Let's try this again, shall we? I've removed all mentions of unapproved currencies - and this submission does not include and will not be including them - so there literally shouldn't be any complaints regarding this, since (with the exception of the Azorean Commonwealth's numbers, as they got flipped around in the original for some reason) none of the values have been changed from the original article.

This post has been edited to remove content that violated the Star Army code of conduct.
~ Fred, Staff

The tags also have been edited to remove those that are nothing but drama-inducing. - Doshii Jun
 
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I'm wondering if USO (or at least planet 188604 itself) has a currency for the chart. It'd be nice to see new elements included like you originally intended, so having something that won't start an argument would be cool, but it's still a nice page update in the absence of new stuff.

Approval on this sort of update ultimately seems like a solely Wes type of decision, though. Since it's a setting page meant to inform players objectively, the mechanisms and values behind what currencies can be traded for are his purview.

What I'm saying is that here on SARP Wes is the invisible hand of supply and demand, or is the Gold Standard, or something like that. He is definitely in charge of faction-spanning mechanics.

Congratulations on your attempt at inclusion the first time, though!
 
FrostJaeger said:
Why does it matter, @Doshii Jun? Isn't making an article look nicer reason enough?
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It would be if that was all that you were doing. Instead, you state you're not including things present in the current version. I can see there's things not included too.

I agree your version looks better, has more links, so on. Just seems like you could do the sprucing up without requiring a resubmission. Right?
 
Doshii Jun said:
It would be if that was all that you were doing. Instead, you state you're not including things present in the current version. I can see there's things not included too.
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What things are you referring to, @Doshii Jun?

Doshii Jun said:
I agree your version looks better, has more links, so on. Just seems like you could do the sprucing up without requiring a resubmission. Right?
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Yes - and thanks for the compliment - but, well, I prefer to go "by the book" when it comes to updating wiki articles.
 
Does a faction currency and how their economy works even need to be approved? Like, if I say the Vekimen currency is made out of dirt, do I need NTSE to allow me to do that? Or, is it considered setting fluff given it's basically fluff of what currency you would find in the setting and how it operates?

Does anyone actually need approval to add their currency to this page? It's what a currency worth actually so important it needs to become approved? How many characters actively talk about exchange rates? How many go and buy other currency? Is this stuff valid?

As a note, the Vekimen Scal value has changed. To ease the process of utilizing the Gartagen Union economy, one Scal is worth the same as one Ducat. I ask that be added while I work on updating the Vekimen economy page, which will be complete tomorrow probably. This was discussed between me and Ira previously
 
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Is this being resubmitted in the exact same state it was upon its rejection earlier today? Is it still lacking representation of all factions and still dictating the value of factions currencies that are on here without discussion with their FM's?
 
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I don't much see the point in making this page update either if we're not adding new currencies. After all it'd just go through approval again when those currencies are added. Logically the best thing to do would be to encourage the new factions to get their currencies approved (without pestering them) and then make the page after that.
 
raz said:
I'm wondering if USO (or at least planet 188604 itself) has a currency for the chart.
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The USO does indeed have a currency in the Arcmark. It's value is 1:1 with the DA because the Frontier Banking Service facilitates currency conversion at that rate.
 
Edto Xar'Sivaree said:
Does a faction currency and how their economy works even need to be approved? [...]
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It does need to be approved, @Edto Xar'Sivaree, as it's a setting element.

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Edto Xar'Sivaree said:
Does anyone actually need approval to add their currency to this page? It's what a currency worth actually so important it needs to become approved? How many characters actively talk about exchange rates? How many go and buy other currency? Is this stuff valid?
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It's valid until Wes says otherwise, @Edto Xar'Sivaree.

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Edto Xar'Sivaree said:
As a note, the Vekimen Scal value has changed. To ease the process of utilizing the Gartagen Union economy, one Scal is worth the same as one Ducat. I ask that be added while I work on updating the Vekimen economy page, which will be complete tomorrow probably. This was discussed between me and Ira previously
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It will not be added until the article containing information about the Scal has been approved, @Edto Xar'Sivaree.

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Gunsight1 said:
Is this being resubmitted in the exact same state it was upon its rejection earlier today?
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No, @Gunsight1.

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Gunsight1 said:
Is it still lacking representation of all factions...
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No, @Gunsight1, because it has information on all of the current factions with approved currency articles.

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Gunsight1 said:
...and still dictating the value of factions currencies that are on here without discussion with their FM's?
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This question was already answered in the opening post of this thread, @Gunsight1.

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Fred said:
Syaoran is correct. Any faction currency that can be included should be included.
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I've already included all of the (current) currencies that can be included, @Fred - and I'd like to request that you and @Doshii Jun please follow the Guide for Submission Reviewers.

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Rizzo said:
The USO does indeed have a currency in the Arcmark. It's value is 1:1 with the DA because the Frontier Banking Service facilitates currency conversion at that rate.
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As there is no approved article for the Arcmark, @Rizzo, it is not being included in this update.
 
FrostJaeger said:
I've already included all of the (current) currencies that can be included, @Fred - and I'd like to request that you and @Doshii Jun please follow the Guide for Submission Reviewers.
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The submission rules do state you have that right.

I don't follow the checklist in the reviews I take care of, therefore I cannot be of any help to you. Doshii Jun doesn't habitually do reviews either.

I suggest you find someone else.
 
In my unresignation thread, I expressly have two things that compete.

One is the power to "prevent drama." This was left intentionally vague and overbroad, to provide latitude for action not easily pinpointed or summarized.

The other was what I don't do — involve myself in the NTSE, issues about which started that thread.

I have not tested that competition beyond thread locks. That's considered safe territory.

Taking on this submission would not be safe territory.

That said, one can't live life in complete safety. Risk and reward walk together, in ruin and triumph.

I will take this submission, follow the guidelines for submissions reviews and render the checklisted judgment accordingly.

I do so under my power to prevent drama, granted to me by Wes.
 
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This review is for: International Currency Exchange

The submitted article is/has…
[x] A very high level of overall quality
[x] A general topic sentence under the title header
[x] Artwork (Required for new species; Strongly recommended for vehicles and hand weapons)\\
[x] Needed and/or useful to the setting
[x] In the proper format/template
[x] Proofread for spelling and grammar
[x] Easy to read and understand (not a lengthy mass of technobabble)
[x] Wikified (terms that could be a link should be a link)
[x] No red and/or broken links
[x] Reasonably scientifically plausible
[x] Reasonably neutral point of view

The submitted article is/does not…
[x] Overpowered (or cutting tech for a faction with little or no roleplay)
[x] Obtusely redundant
[x] Contain copy pasta descriptions of systems or interior compartments
[/] Unauthorized by faction managers or player-controlled corporation
[x] Contain references to IC events that have not occurred (SM must authorize retcons)
[x] Use second-person language (“you” or “your”) unless it is an instructional guide aimed at players.
[x] Use bombastic language (“virtually immune,” “nearly indestructible,” “insanely powerful,” “horrible effects”)
[x] Use an unbalanced header/text ratio (many headers but sections are one-liners)
[x] Use major unapproved sub-articles that should be submitted separately
[x] Lacking Detail
[x] Images hosted on sites other than stararmy.com (Photobucket, Imageshack, etc are not allowed)

The article has…
[-] Speeds in compliance with the Starship Speed Standard, if applicable
[-] Damage Capacity and Damage Ratings in compliance with the DR Guidelines
[-] The in-character year of creation/manufacture. (Should be current year. Future years not allowed).
[-] The Standard Product Nomenclature System, if applicable.


Summary
FM approvals not obtained.
FM approvals still are needed, even though many of the changes were cosmetic. You're able to PM them to do so, and include me on the message thread.

Status: Not Approved. Moved to rejected. This can be resubmitted after the submitter obtains the FM approvals needed.
 
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