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Rejected Submission [Drug] The Black Lady, Illicate Narcotic from outside the Kikyo Sector

BMan142

Oh god it's in my head
Submission URL
https://stararmy.com/wiki/doku.php?id=corp:galactic_shipping_agency:the_black_lady
Submission Faction(s)
  1. Yamatai (except Elysia)
  2. Nepleslia
  3. Elysia
  4. Poku (HSC)
  5. Iromakuanhe
  6. Non-Playable Factions
  7. Outlaws (Independent)
  8. Neshaten
  9. NDC
Submission Terms
  1. I agree
I've ticked all for factions as this will be in effect in all factions. Will also point out it is assumed higher ups in all governments know nothing of GSA's involvment
 
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first off, I'm gonna have to deny it for the time being for Neshaten based on their isolation nature as well as the current territorial lockdown

secondly, you might want to get some rp and time behind the company before you start something like this, its not that the idea of ilicit drug rradingf is bad but more that the company literally just came into being in the In Character world and to achieve something like this across many factions takes time

i'll leave it up to reviewers and wes to decide
 
I have some reservations from the nepleslian side of this, So sorry if this response seems too long.

(TLDR: Denied for nepleslia unless legix comes in and states otherwise. I'de like the corp to go back and re-ask for FM permissions, not only here but on the corp approval thread for use of nepland. Being a yamatai corp is fine but you are required to ask for FM stamps from any faction you would be doing business in/with. And nepland is way too used to drug running to let GSA slip into its space with new drugs that the NPF/NSN/Blacks would expose or destroy GSA and cause an international incident. This alone warrants a Ye/Ne FM stamp from myself or legix on the corp submission thread.)

One thing is that we (the FMs of every single faction sans yamatai) did not approve this corp. Its a yamatai based corp so it got the Wesmans approval for its foundation. But it delivers Everywhere. And if its under the protection of yamatais ships (I would assume until it reaches a border.) i think it needs the approval of other FMs considering there are warships rolling up on your border to escort ships full of whatever is important enough to need escorts compared to every other freight and shipping corp out there.

This alone is a major flag for nepland. Who, while not enemies with yamatai, is always weary of them as a rival and future enemy. And would likely and routinely stop GSA ships the moment they pass the border with the NSN or more likely the NPF and search them with a fine toothed comb for contraband (like this drug, Which would net them a lot of trouble and cause a diplomatic incident) and end up with a seized ship, a detained crew, and trust me when i tell you the NPF are pros at searching ships for contraband considering the faction they work in.

All this would sour relations between yamatai and nepleslia and would end up with yamatai aware of the GSAs drug running and whatever else illicit activities they have going in the future.

And even if this was avoided by the wesman and legix just stamping it, Or me stamping it on legix's behalf with the FM discression of warping reality into saying "No it wouldnt", nepland still has this massive criminal syndicate, The Blacks who run most of neplands crime underworld. And it wouldnt take them long to kill and extort and torture their way up the chain to find the information that would lead to GSA drug running in their territory. And while they havent had much RP lately, The blacks have the power to curb, bring to heel, or outright wipe out GSA even within cat-space over time.


Im sure tihs causes some trouble or inconveniences you Bman, And im sorry for that. No malicious intent is intended on my part against you or your corp. I reccomend GSA possibly smuggling the flowers into the factions instead, After getting permission of course, And manufacturing it from there at maybe some kind of subsidiary hard to track back to GSA like in floral shops etc. Since GSA travels everywhere im sure they can set up one in every port they go to, Where drugs would already be a problem and would make it harder to track back to GSA. Nepland, Be it the blacks or the NPF would eventually so keep in mind a stamp from me or legix would mean possible future RP of this coming to light because a new and green force drug running in a pro corrupt drug running empire in nepland wouldnt hold forever.
 
Just dropping in to echo a few things as an ex-NTSE member (albeit I didn't really do my job actively) first and as an FM second.

Firstly as an ex-NTSE member: I see an issue in this in a lot of the wording/posturing. It's found outside the Kikyo Sector yet its well-known within it and has apparently been around since YE 23? A lot of this seems really weird as a backstory for a drug/plant/whatever. Not only that but they've apparently been able to smuggle/utilize the SAoY to get it around? This makes little to no sense given that the faction is arguably the most anti-drug out of any organization within the entire setting. Making a drug is fine but the backstory doesn't really make sense or fit with the reality of RP and organizations that would have heard of it. The Ikemen or the Syndicate likely would have absorbed this trade or heavily infiltrated GSA just to even make it believable -- getting into crime within Yamatai or even Nepleslia is generally much harder to pull off the creation of an entire drug trade.

As an FM, I would suggest that if you're interested in doing drugs within my faction -- or any faction -- you should speak to an FM or the players to form something that seems like it could be cool/doesn't exist. There's a few drugs that exist in Nepleslia that are safer but still pretty strong so something like this doesn't seem like it would get popular. Illegal drugs acquire an interest based on their effect which leads into addiction and so far this doesn't sound like something Nepleslia would care for. It just looks like a destructive marijuana/herbal drug.
 
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My main concerns are that it would require a retcon to say it was already around, the name (would this be offensive to black women?), and the mysterious "outside the Kikyo sector" thing.

Edit: Moved based on Bman's request.
 
Terms like black lady and woman in black/red and such have been around for ages, and i sgree with char

That and bman is not a racist, nothing in the article was hinting at it being so either. I appreciate the idea to not be a community that accepts racism but I don’t want it to become an overly PC community where everyone is a non gendered individual getting offended at everything.
 
Although this submission has been moved out of normal view at my request, i would like to let it be known to FMs that i will be continuing development of this later and i would love to hear from anyone on the site reagarding any ideas to make a cool and unusual drug that would shake things up a bit.
 
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