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Waiting on Submitter [Psychopomp] Lonite

Andrew

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Hi there,

So from what I gather, Lonite is a synthetic organism.

When you state that it "eats" other materials and metals. I think it needs to be stated what in-universe materials it can metabolism and cannot. As I think that several higher-end alloys things like Yamatanium and Zesuanium wouldn't be able to be metabolized. Currently, the way you have this worded, makes it sound like this organism has the magical property to metabolize and take on the attributes of anything.

I'm concerned with the trend of these submissions I am seeing. They appear to be very overpowered for the independent market, and this one is borderline "limitless".
 

Ace

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I should have specified basic metals (steel, tungsten and other raw ores) this was brought up earlier and I haven’t had the time to correct them yet.
 

Whisper

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This still feels uncomfortably open-ended in terms of what it can do. It mentions that it can combine different materials and use their strengths - is there some limit for that?

For ships, the DRv3 system has some general thoughts on 'armor categories' and their influence on Speed, etc. https://stararmy.com/wiki/doku.php?id=guide:damage_rating_v3#how_fast_can_i_go Do you have any thoughts on where this would end up on that scale?

It's hard for me to know how to approve this, and I think the same is probably true for Andrew, because it's not clear exactly what is being approved.

If your goal is, "Lonite can consume an existing metal, taking on its properties and complimenting them with the ability to slowly heal damage over time" then I think that is cool. If it's "Lonite can consume any number of different materials, turn into any material, known/unknown/not restricted/restricted, and make it self-repair" then I think that's too open-ended.

Any thoughts there?
 

Ace

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My thought on this which is what I'm having trouble putting into writing is that Lonite can take on properties of a material like what your first bit was and that by adding in more during its formative process it can counteract the weaknesses of the consumed materials by having the strengths make up for one another at the cost of its stability and the time it takes for it to regenerate as it gets more and more complex.
 

Whisper

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I gotcha. I don't think you have any weird intentions here, but the description could easily lead to "by combining all of the materials in the setting and only taking the best qualities, Lonite is the ultimate material with no drawbacks except weight". There's nothing saying that can't happen.

As a reviewer, it's hard - if not impossible - for us to approve something that is so loosely defined. If it works with basic materials and makes them self-regenerate, then it's as strong as any of the existing basic materials that PP has access to - with a little extra strength from the repair capability.

When you can meld any number of materials, taking only their good parts, we lose the ability to understand what this will turn into in the future.

I think you've got good intentions, but someone in the future might pick this up and not have good intentions, so we have to think of how submissions will play out in the long term. Better defining Lonite's capabilities or building in some restrictions will help keep it in check while, hopefully, still meeting your original goals.
 

Ace

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Alright then what if we set a limit to the number of materials it can absorb before it destroys itself from becoming too unstable. We could aslo maybe add some more specific weaknesses too it (Maybe it cant last long without oxygen or being fed for example.)
 

Whisper

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Those could work! @Andrew is the official reviewer on this one so I'll let him add his thoughts before telling you to go and make changes. Don't want to lead you astray and waste your time.
 

Andrew

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I still think this material holds a very open-ended and unlimited nature. In this sense, it is not very specific about what it can or can not absorb/metabolize. So I hold to my original statement that this material is almost "magical" in its properties and holds the potential to be overpowered by the setting.
 

Ace

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I have changed the article to show that it can only absorb basic metals l, nothing that has been processed such as alloys, and take on their properties it can still break down other things for nutrients as it uses a chemical system to do so albeit at a much slower pace. If you would like as stated before I am free to expand on that limitation as I am new to creating articles so don’t have a full understanding of how everything should be balanced I creates Lonite because the concept was cool to me and seemed like it could offer some good role play moments if used so I endeavored to create it.
 

Andrew

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I'm again asking for this article to have clarifications:

1. What in-universe metals does genetically engineered life form metabolize? (Ferrous? Non-Ferrous? Heavy? etc) The result is an alloy of the two metals? What does the organism get out of this?
2. Its regenerative properties come from what? The matter is not just created from nothing.
3. What are the limits of the organism? Life Cycle?
4. The article itself doesn't say it cannot metabolize alloys, it says it cannot eat them "very well". That's not very definitive.

I think it's important to understand what you actually plan to do with this... cause obviously it is your intention to replace the top-tier metals/alloys on the silverback that you were told "no" to use.
 
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