Soban
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This is a place where if someone sees something entrusting being said about the setting on Discord, they can post it here for posterity.
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iaincarter — Yesterday at 5:26 PM
Especially if we lose the third mishhu war!
Mikodimus — Yesterday at 5:34 PM
That would be something
FrostJaeger — Yesterday at 5:59 PM
That would indeed be something >:3
Cowboy — Yesterday at 6:09 PM
Yeah, Yam's first loss.
demibear — Yesterday at 7:37 PM
Yam has never lost a war is what I am assuming Cowboy meant.
Charmaylarg Dufrain — Yesterday at 9:13 PM
Doubt it will be this one. The war is outside the sector so unless yamatai comitted all of its fleets and they all across everywhere they went to got shrekt and then yamatai couldnt just print up 70,000 more ships I don't think they would lose unless they pulled the kind of loss like the US in veitnam where it was cutting their losses and pulling out.
Charmaylarg Dufrain — Yesterday at 9:21 PM
Only way yamatai would ever really lose is if a hundred very unlikely things happened and it somehow against all odds just kept shooting itself in the foot. And all the ways it would need to do that are so extremely unlikely IC without even the OOC aspect involved. Like yamatai is never going to elect an anti-war political party to power, screw over its already autonomous admirals, defunding its fleets and legions at the same time when on a war footing, etc
Ametheliana — Yesterday at 9:42 PM
Yamatai has lost battles, though. Nataria, Hoshi no Iori, and Tami come to mind off the bat as total losses that were not recovered (except in Tami's case, but that was after the closing of the war).
They were battles that rocked them to their very core. I feel like losses like those gives our characters uncertainty about where and when they will fail. They also propel them to not let those failures happen again.
Losing the battle but winning the war still hurts the victor. And will make the loser all the more confident to try again...
Ametheliana — Yesterday at 9:45 PM
This is SARP's version of this NH-25 on Star Army Space Roleplay
Instead of legs they have tentacles lol
Wes — Yesterday at 9:50 PM
There were also battles Yamatai won, but the cost was extremely high, like Glimmergold, Third Battle of Nataria, and the Battle of Yamatai...
What we have is a situation where Yamatai is on a timer to find and get the Mishhu under control where they're at or eventually the Mishhu will be so powerful they'll steamroll Yamatai at some future point. They can't be left to keep growing so Yamatai has to fight them now.
Ametheliana — Yesterday at 9:57 PM
Rereading the admiral meeting today, Yamatai also doesn't have as much personnel as it should for wartime, A very sticky spot to be caught in even for the time being, let alone further down the line when the Mishhu feel like attacking closer to home.
Ametheliana — Yesterday at 9:59 PM
I also kind of counted Third Battle of Nataria as a loss. The Kuvexians only retreated because SAINT/ Saiga cancelled a bunch of payments and so they had to figure that out rather than keep pounding Nekovalkyrja into actual forever graves.
But just chewing the fat of history, not arguing one way or another
Cowboy — Yesterday at 10:48 PM
Sorry for the confusion. I meant to tag Iain's comment about "if we lose the third Mishhu war." That would be Yam's first loss.
Ametheliana — Yesterday at 10:56 PM
Yeah I gotchu! Maybe first time losing a whole war
But I hope you + others get my point that Yamatai has certainly lost before
It helps shapes most of my characters and their actions!
Cowboy — Yesterday at 11:01 PM
Indeed. We lost Hanakos world for years. Sanda would also call Gashmere a loss.
Sunny D — Yesterday at 11:02 PM
May I suggest fail safe Von Neumann probes as a fail safe?
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