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Ke-M2-W2904 Flamethrower (for Mindy Power Armor)

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====== Ke-M2-W2904 Flamethrower ======
Designed for used with the [[Mindy Power Armor]], the W2904 is a high-powered portable flamethrower. It fires either a jet of intense flaming gel or a powerful spray of ionized plasma. Its range is about 20 meters, and it is primarily used against unarmored or lightly armored personnel in close quarters combat such as boarding actions. It's for atmospheric use only. In space, it'd be largely ineffective (maybe melt some poor girl's spacesuit but that's about it).

The flamethrower consists of a central barrel and an ignition chamber/accelerator, with a barrel shroud covering most of the barrel. The grip (and overall coloration) is based on that of the standard [[Mindy Power Armor]]. Fuel is stored in a cylindrical container on the weapon's underside, or is aquired via tube from a larger, armored container backpack that attaches to the Mindy's back weapon hardpoint. Fuel lasts approximately one minute for the cylinder and 5 minutes for the backpack. The rifle cylinder is neither armored and only lightly insulted. The material used to make the fuel doesn't freeze (but it could overheat and ignite, if you kept it too close to a sun or something).

NOTE: The Mindy armor itself is largely fire-immune, anyway (not like there's really any flammable material on it either).

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If this is for the Mindy II, Fred had better explain how it fits onto all the dorsal hardpoint. An armored backpack though ... ugh. *imagines Mindy on fire*

Can we get an approximate shot count? Like how many seconds the thing could run without releasing the trigger?

The small fuel cylinder on the bottom of the gun -- is it armored? Insulated from the cold of space?

What is its atmospheric/ground-based performance like? Are there any differences?

Flame gel and ionized plasma are really two separate animals, aren't they? Would they require different barrels?
 
Fuel would last approximately one minute for the cylinder and 5 minutes for the backpack.
*imagines Mindy on fire*
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The Mindy armor is largely fire-immune, anyway (not like there's really any flammable material on it either).

The small fuel cylinder on the bottom of the gun -- is it armored? Insulated from the cold of space?
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The rifle cylinder is neither armored and only lightly insulted. The material used to make the fuel doesn't freeze (but it could overheat and ignite, if you kept it too close to a sun or something).

What is its atmospheric/ground-based performance like? Are there any differences?
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It's designed for atmospheric use. In space, it'd be largely ineffective (maybe melt some poor girl's spacesuit but that's about it).
 
Sounds to me like the backpack section would typically fit on the central 'backpack' hardpoint for both Mindy M2-1F and M2-2. The actual weapon would go on a rack mount on either shoulder when not in use and held in one or both hands when in use.
 
Wouldn't a flamethrower (albeit a high-powered one), assuming it would be useful to Yamatai at all (considering how its enemies are armored too), be more useful as a terrestrial weapon? It doesn't seem to match the Mindy's role very well.
 
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This lacks a damage rating and SR cost as well as the typical Location/Primary use/Secondary use/ect. sheet that follows weapons.
 
...why do I get the feeling this thing is going to see use with some players on its business end... soon?
 
Actually, it makes more sense for me to use positron rifles.

Most of the power armors on the Miharu have protective shielding of some sort - a positron weapon will shear through the protection as if there was none. More effective.
 
There currently is no flamerthrower in use by the Mindy. Sometimes it's useful to be able to burn up all the oxygen in a room, or to set enemies on fire.
 
While this is true, the number of times that removing all the oxygen from a room by way of fire is going to be really rather low.

As are the number of times burning someone is more effective than simply shooting them.
 
Flamethrowers are also psychological weapons.

A dead body can be quietly shipped home in a box. A living, screaming one with 3rd degree burns all over his body is going to be a problem to both hospital staff and troop morale.
 
I find it ridiculous you're arguing against the usefulness of flamethrowers when their usefulness is well-proven in real life. Stop.

Wikipedia said:
The flamethrower is a potent weapon with great psychological impact upon unprepared soldiers, delivering a particularly horrendous death—being burnt alive. It is primarily used against battlefield fortifications, bunkers, and other protected emplacements. A flamethrower projects a stream of flammable liquid, rather than flame, which allows bouncing the stream off walls and ceilings to project the fire into blind and unseen spaces, such as inside bunkers or pillboxes. Typically, popular visual media depict the flamethrower as short-ranged, of a few effective meters (due to common use of propane gas as the fuel in flamethrowers in movies, for safety for the actors), but contemporary flamethrowers can incinerate targets at 50-80 meters (165-270 feet) distance from the gunner; moreover, an un-ignited stream of flammable liquid can be fired and afterwards ignited.

Flamethrowers have not been in the U.S. arsenal since 1978, when the Department of Defense unilaterally discontinued their use, because of public opinion concerns that found their use inhumane.

See also: http://slate.msn.com/id/2057933
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I'm not questioning the usefulness, I'm questioning its placement. The Mindy is primarily a spacy armor, and this would be far more suited to ground warfare. Mindys generally don't see much deployment in environments where the flamethrower would be effective; even as a boarding weapon, there are other weapons which would be more suited to the situation.
 
I also don't quesiton the usefulness. But why not have it on the Daisy instead of the Mindy II? Or allow it to be used on the Daisy? It is the main infantry armor, after all ...

Why the ionized plasma, by the way? Is the flame gel inappropriate in some combat situations? I don't know what ionized plasma does.
 
Doshii Jun said:
But why not have it on the Daisy instead of the Mindy II? Or allow it to be used on the Daisy?
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Very, very good point. Wes really likes the Mindy, but I don't think he really got to start using the Daisy.

Wes, the Daisy might not be quite on par with the NDI armors like the Golem II but if you start actively trying to use it and see what it can do, I'm sure you'll see its still a pretty cool piece of equipment.

Heck, I don't like its name (yeah Jake, I know it's a nice acronym) and I still like using it.
 
I'm not questioning the usefulness, I'm questioning its placement. The Mindy is primarily a spacy armor, and this would be far more suited to ground warfare. Mindys generally don't see much deployment in environments where the flamethrower would be effective; even as a boarding weapon, there are other weapons which would be more suited to the situation.
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I disagree. I know if I was about to board a Mishhu ship, a flamethrower would be EXACTLY what I want for a secondary weapon.

Any Mindy hand weapon will work fine for any other Star Army armor, so it doesn't matter what power armor gets the nomenclature. The Mindy's the primary armor of the Star Army, so I used it for the nomenclature.
 
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