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Lorath Tech: Lo-Moto (Motorbike)

DocTomoe

DocTomoe

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[Lorath Automotive] [001-MB]
1. About the [Lo-Moto]
Due to the expanse of the Lorath civilization upon the planet Lor, personal ground vehicles were deemed a practical invention. Additionally the vehicles were produced in limited numbers to prevent the population from becoming "lazyâ€
 
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*grunts like Tim Allen*

When you want to show power, you show power.

Nothing more powerful then a V-6 on a bike!

*grunts on*
 
I don't have time to go indepth, but I will, have no fear. I also don't know how much you know about bikes, so if it feels like I'm repeating a bunch of shit you already know, ignore me. But real quickly --

A V6 engine has six cylinders, not twelve.

820 pounds. In a 100-inch-long package. So you know, most bikes vary between 50-70 inches in wheelbase; you can safely add twenty inches to that for total length. For example, Harley's VRSC is about as long as your bike, and it seats a pretty big V-twin engine. It alone weighs nearly 700 pounds, and it carries four fewer cylinders than your smallest bike.

This isn't to discourage you. Just keep this stuff in mind. An engine with as many cylinders as you're speaking about, with the speeds you want to achieve, is pretty fucking amazing. You should consider how this engine would be set up -- think maximum lean angle, balance, cooling, so on. What you have created is a bike that current technology simply could not create. The cylinder size on a V12 machine would be incredibly small; otherwise the engine alone could be 50 inches long. Cylinders that small are prone to breaking unless the metallurgy is something like tungsten alloy.

Inline engines, like those on sportbikes, are used for a reason. Their balance and road-handling is generally superior to a V-shaped engine, due to how V-engines work within motorcycle frames. The maximum size of an inline engine, however, is six cylinders (Honda and Kawasaki both made sixes, though only Honda perfected the technology). With the Lorath's technical expertiese, their physicists and engineers would realize this.

Don't restrict yourself in terms of shape, but share your vision with us as far as appearance. Is this a cruiser? Sportbike? Cafe racer? Dirt bike? A mash of them all? Shape is important in this case because it determines engine placement, handling, and speed. 220 mph is unreachable for any stock bike on the market today; extreme modifications, weight shaving and one hell of an engine would be needed to reach that speed safely. For the record, a V-shaped engine that extends beyond the engine frame (sticks out the sides) would kill your aerodynamics, and you'll run into problems with shit hitting it. Consider using some fairings to shape the wind around it.

Stonethread fiber can resist direct strikes. That's good. But how quickly does it shred and break apart? Think abrasion resistence; carbon fiber is very light and can resist abrasion, for example. Is stonethread fiber like this? If so, excellent.

On the flywheel -- if you've got six cylinders, you don't need that flywheel. Your engine should be producing power through the alternator -- assloads of power, I dare say.

Okay, I should go to work now. You know Yosef will want one of these.
 
Hmm, my statement on the engine was a tad vague due to the lack of flexability for a template format, but the point I was getting at was that a V6 is the standard engine that the bike is equipped with. It can be downgraded to a V4 or V2 or upgraded to a V8, V10, or V12.

As for the shape of the bike, it is like that of a typical Harley touring bike.

As for the metalurgy of the bike; the units would be produced in limited numbers, thus they will be constructed from the highest quality materials available to reduce weight, but maintain structural strength. Additionaly, the structural configuration can be modified upon request from the individual ordering the machine.

As for the technicalities of stonethread; https://stararmy.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2207
 
Technically he could be using smaller cylinders or something to that effect. As impractical and inhibiting to stats as a V-6 or even a V-12 would be for a motorbike it is something that can be done and as such shouldn't stop the approval of the vehicle.

What is wrong with the bike is instances where you are contradicting yourself in your description of the bike, in one place you are saying it is supposed to be a mainstream vehicle while in your latest post it is supposed to be produced in limited numbers.

You are also making the body of the machine (which needs to be ridged) out of a material that you describe as a flexible fiber even when compressed which means the bike would most likely vibrate itself apart once turned on.

The bike can use a lot more description on its looks, like what the saddle bags look like, or the shape of the windshield, or how the HUD is shaped/projected whatever or just what the bike actually looks like aesthetically not what parts are where. If you are going to go with the what parts are where description at least include what each part looks like. I am also assuming that the bike also has some sort of radar on it that you didn't include in the description otherwise a HUD won't be projecting much useful data aside from bike status and maybe road inclination and the like.

Finally the bike has an 'electric engine' and a combustion engine in its un-modified state. You need to say it has one, or the other, or both.


Edit: And just a note but in the past modifications for ships have required an entirely different template to be filled out. As this is the standard bike you should naturally fill out everything that comes standard on the bike and not leave anything as 'can be made to order' on the stat sheet.
 
Uso, i'd like to mention how long it takes for a single tech item to be approved or denied. I would like to have the range of possible models to be made available. Instead of flooding the contribution board with several dozen different threads of the same thing that would take a week to several months to be approved or denied.
 
Uso Tasuki said:
Technically he could be using smaller cylinders or something to that effect. As impractical and inhibiting to stats as a V-6 or even a V-12 would be for a motorbike it is something that can be done and as such shouldn't stop the approval of the vehicle.
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No doubt it can be done. But would it really work? The output you'd get from all those tiny cylinders would produce so many revolutions per minute, a flywheel (for regulating engine revs) would be pointless. It's Honda's legendary Six gone completely mad. Your camshafts would snap like twigs with the lightest touch of throttle.

Consider the characters it's being designed for, in the end. You want something Harley-esque, neh? If you want to achieve that sound, that persona, you need to think as Harley does. Two cylinders -- no more, no less. Piston-lifting made at uneven degrees, so you get the "badumbadum--badumbadum" sound. You've got the look, so you're good there.

As to making the frame out of stonethread -- Uso's got a point, but it's a bit overboard. You should probably reinforce the frame with something else (name your metal). That way, you get direct impact protection, abrasion resistence, and you won't have something that can snap and shatter if you lay the bike down. Also note that carbon fiber, possibly like stonethread, is glossed over with some kind of plastic overlay, to keep it sealed from the elements.
 
Wouldn't a vehicle with enough power to reach nearly 200mph on two wheels be really hard to control?Mind you I am not going to make claims to being even marginally knowledgeable in the use of motorcycles, but that is how it seems to me. And wouldn't there also be problems with wind at those speeds in a Harley-type motorcycle where the rider is exposed to the air whipping by?

Lastly; http://www.allpar.com/cars/concepts/tomahawk.html (I realize it is only a concept vehicle)

Discuss

;)
 
Well, I intigrated a windshield into the design in an attempt to minimise the strain put upon the driver due to winds created from the high speeds attainable by the bike. Additionaly, just because it can reach 200, does not mean the driver will take it that far. Its just a possibility that exists inside of the machine's design.

Also, pretaining to the previous statements involving V12's and their feasability: http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/features/kawv12/
 
I suggest that this remain un-approved

-A body made of stone thread would be very vulnerable to being twisted and snapping so it isn't good for this particular kind of structural support.
 
Uso Tasuki said:
-A body made of stone thread would be very vulnerable to being twisted and snapping so it isn't good for this particular kind of structural support.
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Since it's bike tech, I guess I'll toss my two cents in (Again?).

For reference's sake, the V12 engine is a go. I reviewed the engine Doc brought up; it's a solid build, if pricey.

The stone thread frame, though, I'll have to go with Zack. It can reinforce a normal metalloid frame, but the metal must be there. Snapping isn't the worry; twisting is. It simply won't carry the stiffness necessary for high-speed riding and cornering.
 
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