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[Carthage] Montana Class Battleship WIP!!!!

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RazealK

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This is one of my projects I've been brainstorming on. It's far from completion, but I would appreciate any feedback, ideas, or suggestions. As the name implies, the ship is inspired by the Montana Class, a United States design that was ordered but never built.
She's currently slated for 24 heavy aether based weapons turrets, various anti-fighter, and a large long range aether cannon. Any other weapon suggestions would be appreciated. I was also looking for a place to put fighter hanger(s).
Thanks all!
https://stararmy.com/starchan/starships/src/1170445923619.jpg
 
I'd like to see a restrction placed on Carthage's production capabilities until the full program of it is approved, it has a planet for its production facilities, complete with SRPs, and meaningful limits to its speed of producing ships. That INCLUDES use of aether-based weapons and other such tech constraints.

In essence -- quit posting things in this thread until your actual project is approved and given all the appropriate attachments. You're arguably spamming the contrib thread with all of these submissions. Nevermind you already had two ships approved without it ...

And on a slightly related note ... is that Perry-class being used for scale? That would make your ship ... several kilometers long. Which is utterly insane, especially if they're supposed to be produced in any other number than 1.
 
First point:

America didn't technically exist in this universe, and while we do make occasional references to Real Life things - this is taking it too far. You can't name it after a US ship. That's silly.

Second:

Cut down on the aether, is suggests a lack of imagination.

Third:

Your design is somewhat better than earlier - Star Trek - designs.

Fourth,

I agree ENTIERLY with Doshii's point. You're moving vastly too fast and with too advanced technology for a nation who is economically and technologically far in inferior to Yamatai.

Slow the hell down!
 
So where am I supposed to post? And yes that is a perry for comparison. The Montana is most likely only going to be second in size to the Axis class mobile fortress. Mine you this is a Work in Progress and defiantly not representative of the finished target.
I'm currently researching Yamatain tech and will be going to Mishu next. It's going to take me a few months at least before I have a first draft, and then I have to wait for submission and such.
I originally intended to only have 16 Heavy Aether turrets, but with the area for the barrage missiles jutting out I added 8 more total. I'm wondering whether to include torpedoes, as most Battleships stopped using tubes at least going into WWII, and that's just more ammo to have to carry. The ships missile system is pretty much going to do the same job, except it will only fire port/starboard.
Like is said, this is going to take a lot of research just for competitive anti-yamatain weaponry and defenses, so I am open to suggestions.
 
Zakalwe said:
First point:

America didn't technically exist in this universe, and while we do make occasional references to Real Life things - this is taking it too far. You can't name it after a US ship. That's silly.
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The ships were never built. And it's a WORK IN PROGRESS. Perhaps I should find somewhere else to talk about starships and sci-fi, hmm?
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Second:

Cut down on the aether, is suggests a lack of imagination.[/Qoute] Suggestion noted, and agreed. I'm still researching. Can't have all energy or all ammo based, depending on how long the ships away from port.
Zakalwe said:
Third:

Your design is somewhat better than earlier - Star Trek - designs.
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This is actually pretty simple, and one of my more commonly used overall shapes. It's functional and visually pleasing (to me) however.
Zakalwe said:
Fourth,

I agree ENTIERLY with Doshii's point. You're moving vastly too fast and with too advanced technology for a nation who is economically and technologically far in inferior to Yamatai.

Slow the hell down!
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When I'm told I can no longer post or participate in the online community here by someone in charge, I'll leave. I spend so much time and effort here because I enjoy it.
 
Actually, it's not better. Just as an immediate note (all I have time for) -- it's better to finish a submission first and then post it for critiques. Yes, this is a slow process -- that's deliberate, to ensure everything is ironed out before something is approved.

Putting things up when there's really no information on them hamstrings the community's ability to critique it.
 
Fourth,

I agree ENTIERLY with Doshii's point. You're moving vastly too fast and with too advanced technology for a nation who is economically and technologically far in inferior to Yamatai.
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I disagree with this entirely as Nepleslia does have technology that rivals and in some cases exceedes what Yamatai is capable of because of its friendship with the NDI.
 
Friendship? More like dependency. The moment the NDI decides to pull out from our universe and do more interesting stuff in theirs, the NSA is screwed.

Sure, they are building a couple of DD4s. But do you actually own the shipyards to produce them? Can you actually produce the parts needed to fix them? Once your stash of spare parts runs out, how are you going to maintain those ships otherwise of using patchwork NAM-made parts to try to keep them together?

*grins* Your point of view is painfully naive Uso. Much like your character's biased perception of the diplomat Soreta, you don't seem to be able to grasp the big picture. Despite the self-glorification, Nepleslia does not share the YSE's technology; they've been too busy kicking the crap out of each other to amount to much in the last decade.
 
But do you actually own the shipyards to produce them?
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Yes

Can you actually produce the parts needed to fix them?
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The answer would also be Yes.

Nepleslia does not share the YSE's technology
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This would also be largely untrue as the YSE did share tech with Nepleslia up until its independence. The largest drain on Nepleslian construction has actually come from retroactive posting in other threads on the state of Nepleslia. Please refrain from doing so in the future.

Also you do not seem to be able to grasp the difference between in character actions and OOC actions on the board.
 
Stop being abrasive, Zack.
 
Your point of view is painfully naive Uso
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I think I do deserve to be able to defend my character and the characters I play here when I am being slandered by a moderator or anyone else.
 
*siiigh* Just when we thought it was over. So it goes.

When Nepleslia broke away from Yamatai, the IC knowledge went that Nepleslia lost out on the aetheric weapons technology that has made Yamatai so strong. It was a condition of their independence -- had that concession not been included, Yamatai would've been threatened. Retroactive or not, Uesu and Yui would not have been stupid enough to let aether weaponry, let alone more advanced tech, stay with the independent state.

Regardless, a company like Razeal's would not have access to it without illegally salvaging it. If he wants to take that chance, he should be allowed to.

Also, Derran's the one that knows about how deeply the NDI is involved with Nepleslia. He's the Avatar, so he needs to speak on that.

And technically, it's libel, not slander.
 
I'm willing to use something other than Aether, that's why I usually ask for suggestions. And Carthage base is capable of producing DD4's O_o
I've already designed a Escort destroyer capable of atmospheric entry, the Spacelord class. And if you think SAoY surpasses Nepleslian tech so much, wait till you see Axis! =D
 
I said could..provided we had the plans and parts made from scratch. Mind you could doesn't mean WOULD.
But Wes is God, And whatever Wes says Goes.
 
Here's the write up so far, I haven't been working on it much mind you. Any ideas for the modular heavy turrets? These are going to be like the main guns on todays battleships. That Tachyon enhanced cannon is the spinal mounted cannon seen in the pic.

====== Montana Class ======
===== 1. About the Ship =====
===== 2. History and Background =====
Designed
===== 3. Statistics and Performance =====
* Organizations Using This Vessel: Carthage Project: Dresden Fleet
* Type: Battleship
* Class: Montana
* Designer: Carthage Project
* Manufacturer: Carthage Base
* Production: 6 Ships
* Crew: 30,000
* Pilots: 48 Power Armor,
* Maximum Capacity: 32,000
* Appearance:

CSS-Montana
CSS-Ohio
CSS-Maine
CSS-New Hampshire
CSS-Louisiana
CSS-Kirov

==== Dimensions ====
* Length:
* Width:
* Height:
* Decks:
* Weight:
==== Performance ====
* Speed (STL):
* Speed (CDD): 10,000
* Speed (Hyperspace Fold): N/A
* Range:
* Lifespan:
* Refit Cycle:
===== 4. Roleplay Stats and Cost =====
==== Sections and Armor Rating ====
==== Ship Resource Point Cost ====
===== 5. Inside the Ship =====
==== Deck Layout ====
==== Compartment Layouts ====
=== Armory ===
=== Bridge ===
=== Captain's Suite ===
=== Cargo Storage Areas ===
=== Crew Quarters ===
=== Crew Recreation ===
=== Engineering ===
=== Maintenance Conduits ===
=== Medical Center and Laboratory ===
=== Passageways ===
=== Power Armor Bays ===
=== Shuttle Bays ===
=== Wardroom ===
===== 6. Ship Systems =====
==== Armored Hull and Hull Integrated Systems ====
==== Computers and Electronics ====
==== Emergency Systems ====
==== Life Support Systems ====
==== Propulsion ====
==== Shield Systems ====
Secondary Shielding: The ships uses subspace isolation shielding which is design to negate the effects of subspace weapons or adverse subspace effects that may damage the ship. This shield is only normally engaged during combat conditions to prevent ranged attacks.
==== Weapons Systems ====

=== Main Weapons ===
Type II LietzStroiker Tachyon enhanced Polaron Ascendancy Cannon:

= Type I Heavy Turret (24) =
Antimatter Railgun Battery:

Firestorm Type II missile battery system (Two, 48 missiles per module): The module is capable of launching missiles with ranges in excess of 1 astronomical unit (93 million miles), these weapons can be volleyed at ranges far beyond the guns of most enemy vessels.
PRIMARY PURPOSE: Anti-warship
SECONDARY PURPOSE: Depends on missile used.
RANGE: Approx 900,000 km
RATE OF FIRE: 48 per minute for anti-capital ship missiles, 4 per minute for anti fighter/mecha cluster missile warhead variant.
PAYLOAD: 4,000 missiles in ready magazines.

=== Secondary Weapons ===
Type I Torpedo Launcher System: Armed with fore and aft tubes, this system can use a variety of different warheads.

Type7a

Type7b Seeker: This Warhead is equipped with a Quantum seeking warhead, specifically designed for anti-legacy cannon power generators.

Type 7c Interdictor Warhead: Specially designed for use against ships with CFS fields, this warhead uses a simple single use Interdictor Field generator.

=== Anti-Fighter Weapons ===

===== 7. Vehicle Complement =====
==== Shuttles ====
==== Fighters ====
 
I'd say the turrets should be anti-matter, like the Chiharu's.
 
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