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Yagen Post subject: External PA entryPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:28 pm


Is it possible to gain entry to a PA that has a pilot in it already? The idea is that if you are fighting in close quarters, you could try to open the enemy's armor. This would render the pilot exposed and easily taken out.

I'm willing to guess this won't work, mainly due to the AIES disabling the opening. But, is there a place on the armor that one could hit by either a blade or some bullets that would render the lock useless and/or take out the AIES?







Doshii Jun Post subject: Re: External PA entryPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:11 pm


I can speak for the Harpy and the Daisy.

Generally speaking, no. The armor user has to agree to being dragged out or, as you mentioned, the AIES has to allow for it (requires a medical emergency).

If you kill the AIES, you kill the pilot. Targeting the AIES that way isn't possible; you'd most certainly kill the pilot and ruin the armor (as it needs AIES anyway, on some level or another).

As far as I know, all Yamataian armors work this way.

Now, if you can somehow, SOMEHOW, blast the manual helmet lock off of an armor, and not kill the pilot, you're powergaming no matter the distance. Even a well-trained sniper couldn't do that in one shot with any weapon available, including an aether rifle.







Miss Strangelove Post subject: Re: External PA entryPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:15 pm


Realistically? No.

Theoretically? The AIES is a tiny computer system, likely situated in the safest part of the armor. Now, killing a pilot will make all major SAoY PA self-destruct...so the wiki articles on the Daisy and Mindy have led me to believe. So in order to capture one, you'd need to 1-hit KO the quantum computer without, somehow, destroying the internal systems. Though I imagine killing the AIES would disable the PA anyways...then there's the matter of prying it open, removing the pilot's corpse, replacing the AIES...That's all assuming there's no "AIES dies, unit self-destructs" failsafe. Or a communications uplink to trigger remote self-destructs. In which case you'd need an interdiction-style jammer.

Though I'm curious: Why are you asking how to hijack a SAoY PA? Something for one of your characters' plots?

Edit: Damn, Doshii beat me too it.







Yagen Post subject: Re: External PA entryPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 7:23 am


I had a player in Fort Ready asking me how possible that would be. It would have been an interesting strategy to try, but it looks like there are too many defenses on the armor.
 
Yamatai puts their soldiers in exploding armor. Eviltai confirmed.

Seems odd that there's absolutely no practical method beyond severe damage to force PA to open up. It really removes that possible "OHSHI-" moment of something like a Mishhu jumping an adorable and innocent Neko and stripping her out of that tin-can for "fighting".

But yeah, it seems weird that PA doesn't have a possibility to open without forcing the AIES to acknowledge/do so. What happens if the AIES malfunctions? Like death is clearly not a big deal, but this seems like an oversight to the fact that Yamatai has a lot more than JUST Neko fighting/serving in various roles that might put them into Power Armor. Surely it makes sense to have some sort of emergency opening mechanism that's abuse-able at close-range, but equally effective for VERY bad situations.
 
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