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Rejected Submission Neko Burger Resubmission

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Amaryllis

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Submission Type: Company/Restaurant
Submission URL: https://wiki.stararmy.com/doku.php?id=yamatai:neko_burger

Faction: Yamatai and Nepleslia primarily. Ideally approval from any other faction FMs that would tolerate this business in their space would be nice.
FM Approved Yet? No
Faction requires art? I don't think so.

For Reviewers:
Contains Unapproved Sub-Articles? No
Contains New art? No
Previously Submitted? Yes

I guess I'm tagging @Koenig808 @DocTomoe @Abwehran Commander and @Exhack because one or more of them might say their faction would ban it. Sorry if this seems weird. To clarify the restaurant would sell artificially grown pieces of sapient species.

If it helps my Neko is currently guarding some Origin people on Ake in a plot in which there's supposed to be a lot of peaceful farming/terraforming with the occasional exciting predicament so I imagine she has plenty of time to oversee things through long distance communication technology and she's got experienced help to be where she can't.

I made a new thread because I figured it'd be better to start fresh.
 
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I must say, I did not actually read what Neko Burger was about when I encouraged you to keep going. I don't quite see any faction approving of the consumption of fellow sapients, even if artificially grown pieces. I rather see the NPF looking at the license, handing it to the IPG, and several MPs rolling out.

I wasn't aware that Tamahagane (@Nashoba ) had approved as being part of this.
 
Actually the consumption of sapients would be a deal breaker. The consumption of sapients I"m pretty sure is illegal in most empires. Only Nepleslia has a prior history of eating such as Cattle Women

And we all know the Mishhu will eat anything.
 
Wouldn't that be kinda awkward for Yamatai anyway? Like 80% of their population is people in artificially grown bodies, so wouldn't that be no different from essentially growing a person intentionally brain dead or something and then using them as meat? I have a feeling that'd break many ethics laws in Yamatai. Even if that some how was legal...that's horrible PR for their international conferences.

~~Conference starts~~~
<Nepleslia> "So I heard you have a restaurant chain where your citizens can eat people, Yamatai."
<Everyone else> *Gives Yamatai a dirty look*
 

Especially since it was Yamatai who made a giant fuss over Cannibalism to the point they'd let their soldiers starve to death over eating Mishhu rations.
 
This is tragic. What if I cut the sapient part? Would it really be so wrong to let people taste what actual people taste like? I mean a company could easily make something mimic the flavor of people and make it look like anything and call it anything. Heck, Neko don't even have to "taste like people" as they can design their bodies and fluids to taste like anything. My Neko for instance is caramel flavoured.

Only people that actually ate other sapients or sought out the taste in other ways would even know what they taste like.

Where would people draw the line? If you served food that tasted just like say Elysian and had the same texture would it be allowed as long as it wasn't an actual vat grown wing? Would people be allowed to call a food item an Elysian wing and sell it if it wasn't actually one? What if there was an unmodified animal that tasted pretty much the same as a sapient? What if there was a modified one?

No offence Sigma, but I sure hope Kampfer disagrees. Why should Mishhu get to ruin cannibalism for everyone? I say we take it back and let it have no power over our characters.
~~Conference starts~~~
<Nepleslia> "So I heard you have a restaurant chain where your citizens can eat people, Yamatai."
<Everyone else> *Gives Yamatai a dirty look*
That just means Yamatai is freer than freedomland and makes better burgers as it isn't restricted on what ingredients it can use.

Both factions are already monsters because they create sapients and demand that they fight for years to earn the freedom of ordinary citizens and treat people fresh out of a vat as adults. Even with the option to buy your way out that is still artificially generating temporary slaves. The Yamtaian ones get indoctrination and a genetic predisposition towards fighting so they won't realize their predicament or think poorly of it. I wouldn't be surprised if Nep clone soldiers do too. Telling a sapient it owes you for creating it makes no sense because it never asked to be created. By creating it you are giving it needs. If anything the creator owes the sapient it made a debt as it is obligated to fulfill those needs. It is not the gift of life. It is the burden of it. You need nothing if you do not exist.

If Nepleslians can proudly destroy their forests and wildlife to pave over the universe it sounds like cognitive dissonance to look down on artificially grown meat as no animals are hurt in its production.
Especially since it was Yamatai who made a giant fuss over Cannibalism to the point they'd let their soldiers starve to death over eating Mishhu rations.
I don't think soldiers were really starving to death. They can eat rocks.

The Yamataian senate was also highly divided over that and I believe I ended up deciding the final outcome as I reversed my original vote.

Wes has ultimate authority to decide what things are and aren't IC wise but many people thought the whole idea of Yamataians starving didn't make sense.

Two news post by Wes do not negate how everyone else felt OOC and IC about the food shortage idea and the issue of whether or not to allow Mishhu rations to be eaten.
 
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I can guarantee these shops won't be welcome in any Elysian territories so long as they sell food designed to mimic a sapient being, whether or not the creature in question was ever a person, purely on the principle of the thing.
 
What if they don't sell such things in Elysian territory? Would they still be banned if they only sold them elsewhere?
Now I'm feeling like a real businessman.

Another question is would factions really go so far as to completely ban such shops?
I know sure FMs can just say yes but IC wise isn't it possible certain territories within a faction would have the right to object to a ban by the national government? That's just an idea I'm throwing out there.
 
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The elysians are a strong, proud, and honorable race. If the neko burger sold sapient food anywhere the elysians would probably ban it on principle alone.

I'd think, but I'm just co-fm @Aendri has final word on that
 
That's correct. They have no interest in doing business with someone who feels such things are acceptable, regardless of where they're doing it.
 
Pretty much any part of an Empire that is officially part of it, would have to obey the laws of their respective government. A colony can't just decide to ignore a law. Eating the bodies of other intelligent beings is going to be repugnant to pretty much every species and faction. Except for the Squids.

Even the Pak'ma'ra who were carrion eaters out of 'religious' reasons, were the subject of scorn. This is a business that just wants to make a buck by serving up intelligent creatures. As for knowning how a species tastes. That would mean that their company would have to eat the various species to find out how they taste. Strongly recommend reworking that section.
 
Personally, I'm not incredibly excited about the whole 'being able to taste people' thing, but I don't see the issue. In real life, I would jump for an opportunity to go eat somewhere that promised me the chance to eat ethically pure dead people. Because I love eating ethically dubious dead animals, I think I can handle eating people-- and I love to try new things. Now, with that said, I would not think that such a restaurant is especially cool or especially evil or especially anything, really. Serving imitation sentients is a clever marketing scheme.

Because I've provided an encouraging interest in this project, I'll chime in here.

What if these vat-grown meats were basically delicious bio-engineering monstrosities? For instance, some DNA was doctored to tell cells to divide in such a way that a flower-shaped structure of conjoined chicken wings were produced in the vat. No such creature has any limb like this, so you can't really say it's a crime against nature to eat something which doesn't exist.

If that's permissible, then say we use a pinch of data from Elysian DNA to tell the whole thing to be bigger and meatier? It's not really Elysian wings, the same way apes aren't really humans. Again, it's also a construction which never occurs in nature; so you're not really eating anything except a set of instructions some DNA gave to some cells.

However; if those things are permissible, what's to say it's not permissible to use DNA harvested from a willing candidate to clone a bunch of 'prosthetic' limbs for that individual? And if you can do that, why can't you eat them? Would the person who had the prosthetics grown be allowed to eat their own imitation flesh? Would they be allowed to share it with a friend? ("Taste my wings, Shuzen. Aren't they good?")

The problem with these sorts of moral judgments is that they wander into a philosophical gray area. Where does any government draw the line at 'sapient'? Could Nekoburger use biological data gathered from various races as the basis for vat-grown meats if they were heavily genetically modified? Could Nekoburger adapt existing designs with DNA from sentient races for a better product? I think, in order to really finish this company, a line needs to be drawn somewhere. It's not really the submitter's fault if people can't draw that line. I would be disappointed to see this submission rejected over that without some more clarification as to what's permissible and what's not-- and why those things are the way they are. "You shouldn't have to ask." Is also not a valid response, I think. With the technology existing in our setting, this kind of thing should've come up sooner if we're honest. In my opinion, this is probably something that will happen sooner or later on Earth anyway.


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As an aside, I'd like to point out that everyone is really hyper-focusing on this whole business of eating people; which seems to be only a secondary aspect of Nekoburger. I may be presumptuous here, but isn't this really just a hostess club version of those restaurants in Japan that serve 'Western Food'-- Whose interpretation of the phrase 'Western Food' is spaghetti noodles with humongous meatballs covered in ketchup (something I've never seen in Occidental cuisine) or pizza piled high with 'Giga Meat' (slices of mixed sausage) and salmon roe?


Yes, that crust has hot dogs in it. And pepperoni. And processed cheese. And that's just the crust.


The Japanese call this spaghetti. To be precise, they call it Naporitan (Neapolitan) Spaghetti.

So, aside from this troublesome business of where the line is drawn for what is sapient and what isn't; is it really so far-fetched for a Yamataian restaurant to take Nepleslian cuisine and put an Imperial twist on it?
 
The law says that, Any form of sapient eating was outlawed in Yamatai. Any form. Yamatai would rather see their soldiers -starve- to death behind enemy lines then even think about eating a Mishhuvythur Ration that may have. Somehow I doubt they'll go 'Oh civilians can eat all this stuff' when they won't even allow their own soldiers to eat rations when it means life or death.

In real life, I would jump for an opportunity to go eat somewhere that promised me the chance to eat ethically pure dead people. Because I love eating ethically dubious dead animals, I think I can handle eating people-- and I love to try new things.

You may jump at that but over 75% of the world would -not- be okay with that. I for one would feel sick if I was to ever consume a dead person.


Are they Sapient? Are they at any point in their life span able to think on level of a human if let to live? You are comparing a sapient being to animals that are quite different. You have to understand how human psychology works to understand exactly how this would effect someone. People, who think, feel, have -morals- would be outraged by this idea if it ever came to light that they were eating -people- whether it was different or not. A sapient being, such as a Neko, or a Nepleslian, is not the same as a bunch of chicken wings in a vat.


Use any part of an Elysian and I guarantee you you'll have a racial war involved against Neko Burger, thats not a threat, but its just common knowledge that Elysians are extremely honorable and dedicated people. They wouldn't even come close to allowing Plebeians to be put through this process and thats literally the lowest of the low that you can be in Elysian Society. Using any form of DNA from an Elysian, and allowing them to find out about it, would be very detrimental to your cause.


First of all I wouldn't really say those things were permissible. But let me pose this question to you. If you were given a dead arm and told to eat it would you? That is clearly the same thing as being given a 'prosthetic' arm grown in a Vat its, DNA thats disconnected from the body, which means its 'dead'. Willing candidate or not, Cannibalism is Cannibalism, whether its vat grown, willingly harvested or even if someone in a Will said they wanted their body used to feed homeless people. So no, I'd have to say that based on Yamataian Law, and many factions outlooks on Cannibalism to begin with, that no. You can't eat them, no you can't allow the person who grew the prosthetics to eat their own flesh, and no, they would not be able to share it with a friend.

You see, all these things could be avoided if kept in the secret of their house, but -you- are asking to put this out on market on several different planets without realizing how much of an outrage this would cause to billions upon billions of people in each world. Your Neko Burger would never ever logically even take off to making it to another world, or even past its first restaurant the moment the Governments realized you were serving sapient food. It doesn't matter what OOcly we think, in the end its what the setting would do, and that setting would destroy any chance of Neko Burger going anywhere, if it sold Sapient Food.


I reiterate my points up above, If the thing looks Sapient, is capable of even the smallest amount of sapient thought, or is from another sapient being, then I think that is where the government would draw the line. No, they could not use biological data from various races because as stated above again, the idea is morally incomprehensible to such races -especially- the Elysians, the Elysians would most likely be one of the -biggest- enemies to this franchise. As I've stated before Yamatai is more than willing to let their soldiers die over eating Mishhu based Rations that might have neko's in them... MIGHT have neko's in them, theres never a guarantee, but yet because of that possibility they would prefer to let their soldiers starve and die horrible deaths over eating it. Why -why- would they allow a business that goes against that? And why would the populous allow it considering it goes against their laws?

Long story short, the populous has no logical reason to accept this, and their morals would effect the growing of the business, and Neko Burger would most likely -never- reach the levels you desire it to see, at best it would probably be some crummy outshack over in Mishuu territory because the populous, while not played, is indeed its own force and life. They all have their morals, and over 70% of the people in the known factions would be against something like this.

This being said however, I'm far from a master of Yamataian/Nepleslian/Lor/Whatever Else Law.

In fact the people who -do- have that knowledge haven't even given this thing a second look, so whats that say?

@Wes @DocTomoe @Koenig808 @Nashoba @Aendri @Kyle

These are the people you need to convince, They are the ones who hold majority control over the known factions and so far two of them have said no. The acceptance of eating sapient people, even vat grown and brain dead is highly unlikely to be accepted by any populous in the factions for reasons stated above. As for your comment on 'This will probably be something that happens sooner or later on earth'... That won't be for a very, very long time. While the peoples morals are skewered, Cannibalism is something that is still WILDLY taboo and something that is severely frowned upon even in the most primitive of countries. The only place you find such acceptance is in those places where civilized company does not really go. The idea of eating people as a total is morally sickening to a majority of the civilized world.

I would personally rethink this, but in the end, you can try to do what you want, but I think that this idea isn't going to fly simply due to the sapient part. I'm honestly not even sure -why- its that big of a deal to remove the sapient food, and replace it with something else. The fact both of you are pushing so hard makes it seem like you want to do it simply because you want to get away with it, rather then actually contribute important additions to the website as a total.

I honestly have no issue with any other part of the idea, except that one part. I'm not a setting approver though.
 
Are they Sapient? Are they at any point in their life span able to think on level of a human if let to live? You are comparing a sapient being to animals that are quite different.

You see, this is the issue with your argument. Is an arm sapient? Did a thinking and feeling creature with morals as you've described suffer to bring me this arm I'm meant to eat? If so, it's hideously wrong. It's hideously wrong and entirely unappealing.

"You can never know whether what you ate was harvested through suffering or science." You might argue.

That would be a good point. I wish you'd made that point, instead. Attacking this from some perceived moral high ground is denying the philosophical implications that come with considering humanity's decision to not eat each other. One of the reasons why cannibalism is so universally frowned upon on Earth is because of superstitious reactions to real and very scary medical issues. Eating certain portions of dead humans exposes the diner to deadly prions (known by contemporary culture for causing Mad Cow Disease) that cause severe illnesses and psychosis. When this effect was observed, ancient people learned quickly not to eat each other. Later, religions used this as evidence of a godly distaste for anthropophagy. Many ancient leaders have even fabricated tales of supposed cannibalism as a form of primitive propaganda.

Star Army as a setting is a mostly atheistic universe. Sure, there are religions. In fact, you're closely tied with the Elysians who have one of the more notable ones. For the most part, however, our concerns should be health and well-being. We're talking about meat that is created by science. Suffering-free, ethically-pure meat. It does not have feelings. It does not think. It is simply proteins bound together by intentionally crafted genetic sequences without the fire of self-actualization that other, unethical meat might have. To me, personally, eating something like this is less wrong than eating farm-raised chicken or beef. My steak had to suffer to be brought to me. For all we know, this monstrosity of bio-engineering doesn't even have nerves. So, morally? I don't think there are moral implications.

I'll go back to something I said earlier:

"You can never know whether what you ate was harvested through suffering or science."

If this were presented as the reason for Neko Burger being illegal, I'd understand that entirely. I'd love for the basis of removing potentially sentient items from the menu to be that those items are impossible to regulate. I could accept that argument. After all, no one wants to be eaten, and we as a society would certainly want laws like that to protect us from being eaten. However; the only explanation for why it's wrong that I'm seeing is: "It just is."

Nothing 'just is'. That's how people talk to children. We're not children. We can take a moment to sit down and examine things for what they are without saying that someone is 'just trying to get away with' anything. Amaryllis already said: "What if I cut the sapient part? Would it really be so wrong to let people taste what actual people taste like? I mean a company could easily make something mimic the flavor of people and make it look like anything and call it anything."

So: Clearly, he's not holding on too dearly to the whole idea of serving genuine people parts. In fact, it's really not all that important to me. However; I can't help but feel that the reasons for attacking anthropophagy are unnecessarily emotionally charged.
 
Lamb being technologically advanced and aetheist does not mean it would make you turn to cannibalism. There are plenty of aetheist around today, and the vast majority of them would never even think about cannibalism. Judgements on Cannibalism is not a religious or scientific thing. It's actually social, after all the majority of nonsapients that are not insects do not practice cannibalism. Why not? I mean after all they can eat other animals just fine, but yet they don't, that would be indication that it's a social behavior. And SARP's setting also isn't 'mostly atheistic'. HSC are religious, Lor have a religion, Abwehran have a religion, Elysia have a religion, Iroma have a sorts of a religion, Neshies I believe have a religion too. IN fact I think the only ones that don't have a religion that are an active faction are Yamatai and possibly Nepleslia, though with how Nepleslia is done, they probably just don't have a unified religion and people believe different things.

So with the non fact that "The setting is mostly aestheistic' out of the way, back to the social aspect. Because it -is- social it actually -can- be "Just because". If it's a notion that is ingrained into someone by law or constant teaching there does not actually have to be a reason for it. They would likely develop their own reasoning in their mind as to why the law is such. After all, when you get down to it, why is it socially unacceptable for women to expose their breast in public, but when a man does it, it's just "Being a little too casual"? Techncially speaking there is no -real- reason between that distinction, but one was made and laws were set and mind sets ingrained into people anyway.

But in the end, what it comes down to is Faction laws and Faction social structures. If the faction is not accepting of cannibalism they do not have to give you the reasoning behind it. Because either way, they are not accepting. Yeah you could argue that some people would be interested, and I bet they would. But this isn't a small little single restaurant this is designed to be a chain store. Which means -hiding- it from the authorities is a lot harder, and realistically getting enough money from an -investor - is hard, cause they would have to be approving of it as well.

And lastly, the reason the cannibalism is such a focus is because this is a resubmission. The other issues with the place have mostly been sorted out. Cannibalism is the only thing holding the place back really. It would most likely be approved if that was just taken out.
 
The process of creating deep fried Elysian wings isn't going to cause any suffering itself. If it causes suffering it will be from such things as people reacting to them being on a menu or taking a bite and gagging as they don't suit their taste or because they have convinced themselves they will be revolted before even trying as if morality affects your taste buds. The food will just be organic matter grown in a lab separate from a body that won't feel pain.

It seems like people are assuming my company would grow an entire Elysian/Nepleslian/Gartagen/whatever and amputate while he's alive and conscious and capable of feeling pain.
https://stararmy.com/roleplay-forum...-anti-cannibalism-act.7432/page-2#post-122369
https://stararmy.com/roleplay-forum...-anti-cannibalism-act.7432/page-2#post-122422
Wes said:
Re: Proposal 89 - Anti-Cannibalism Act

I vote YES for the law as last amended.
You are wrong and you stated what you said as if you have extreme confidence. You either lied or you misread. You are not a full faction manager. You are not Wes or Aendri. You are speaking as if you were some absolute authority which you are not. Who are you to tell me what Yamatai thinks definitively? I have just demonstrated superior knowledge. I have been a Yamataian player for over three years so as far as I'm concerned what I say matters too and the fact that I was allowed to vote in the senate discussion on cannibalism proves that. Maybe you should try letting actual FMs have their say instead of seemingly speaking for them. The bill was 7 to 8 and I actually switched my vote to Yes as Neko Burger wasn't a thought in my mind at the time. It wouldn't have passed without me and if we were to vote again I'd vote differently. I actually feel I should have voted NO now, not because I want this passed, but because banning it restricts what people can do such as in this case. Banning things is a one time form of enjoyment in RP, protesting and discussing things generates much more fun and creative expression than just saying no to them.
No my Kodian/Kohanian bear paw making won't cause any pain at any point. My company won't grow a whole being. Why do you assume this?

Also, I think Lamb has morals and he isn't outraged. I don't think he is a sociopath. We have been friends for years. He is a person and he understands himself and can make psychological observations that are just as valid unless you've got a degree.
You are wrong about legality and you are speaking as if you were Wes, Nashoba or Doshii Jun. Please stop acting like that. Thank you.
Long story short you have spoken as if you were a master or faction authority beyond Elysia when you aren't even the Elysian FM and you have been proven to be wrong on a major issue in your argument. You also aren't taking into consideration that a senate vote of 7 to 8 does not equal 70% disapproval.

The senate could always vote again, but I don't think it needs to as you are already able to eat the meet of other actual PEOPLE with their written permission.

You are not Site Manager or FM of Earth. You are one person. Lamb and I are two.
It sure seems like Semjax and you to a lesser extent are turning this into a discussion of present day morals and trying to enforce a world view/form of morality on the setting despite the fact that the setting could be hundreds of years in the future and none of us are qualified to say we can definitely know what the future will hold.

What do people gain by banning this company?
Not much.
If people want to demonstrate the morals of their faction the best way would be to let players play out their disapproval with their characters, not in a NTSE thread.

My company generates roleplaying opportunities and yet I'm not seeing anyone acknowledge that.
If people think I'm being rude I'll refer to the reviewer rules.

Instead of any significant positive feedback as a counterbalance to the negative I'm getting someone telling me why they are so confident the entire setting will reject my company.

I guess I'll provide my own positive feedback.
Pros of Neko Burger
It's a place to meet pirates, yakuza, Reds, any organized or unorganized crime, exiles like ex-enemy Mishhu/ex-NMX Neko and anyone society might shun in general.
It's a place for anyone to do actual shady business with the company or just negotiating within it.
It has a bounty board as a plot hook so people can go off in search of the rarest/dangerous animals whether that means hunting for them or just buying them from someone else to sell at a higher price or stealing them.
It gives characters something to hate or tolerate or actually like to demonstrate their personality/values/beliefs/etc.
It obviously gives characters a place to eat, get drunk, hang out and show their sexuality.
It gives characters the opportunity to express nationalism and a cultural identity outside of fighting as soldiers.
It is much more detailed than any other food/restaurant article I have seen.
It gives people a place to do unusual things like have an eating contest to the death.
It is actually very Nepleslian and in a way very futuristic and this is a future setting. Some of you might see the future as outlawing all the "bad" stuff but there's also the common view of future people being freer and liberated even if the new freedoms seem to more often than not be "misused."
It provides opportunities for friendly faction and business rivalry.
It really adds to the setting as it links itself to hospitals, gun stores and love hotels by creating business for them/working with them. It has business practices that make it easy to add to a situation because anyone could want to do something bad or good to it for being cutthroat and debatably immoral. Like maybe someone PC characters run into an NPC whose husband died eating in a Neko Burger or he was seduced by a worker there. Maybe a character even worked at a Neko Burger as part of their background history because the company will hire anyone. Maybe PCs are sent to quell a protest and are tasked with actually keeping people alive for a change. Maybe people will feel like writing news articles about reactions to the company. Maybe politicians or business owners will defend Neko Burger because they want to say they're defending freedom and/or they hope this will make it easier to start other equally or more controversial businesses.
It gives you a potential source of humor and/or horror. Maybe characters will be convinced no matter what that Neko Burger is evil and uses the meat of actual unwilling, thinking, feeling sapients. Maybe they'll be amused at some NPC's dying wish to be turned into food so people can enjoy him one final time and to express his love of the restaurant. Maybe they'll witness a bunch of people in black eating at a restaurant that don't know their very unusual after funeral meal is the deceased.

Being allowed to eat an actual person's flesh in Yamatai as long as you have permission seems to suggest to me eating flesh of sapient species grown in a lab that feels no pain is legal since you should not need consent from a wing or paw attached to nothing that cannot give consent to begin with.

I'll just quote what was written in the post below this one for posterity.
 
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Actually, @Amaryllis I am a Faction Manager, I am Aendri's Co-FM and I am more then qualified to speak about the Elysians as if I was an FM, Aendri will correct me if I'm wrong, but he doesn't, because I'm not wrong. Elysians will not accept this, and since you rather get defensive then discuss this rationally, I will just abide by Aendri's wordings, and say the Elysians will not accept it. period. Get Rid of the Sapient part, and we'll discuss it then, until then, I'm abiding by Aendri's ruling.

And I would highly advise staying polite and civil, if you don't, we may be seeing a repeat of why the previous one got shut down.

So enjoy not having approval from Elysians.
 
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I guess I would like to know if Elysians can ban my company from Yamatai because they are part of it. And I'd like to hear this from a Yamataian FM. And I'd like to know if Aendri would use his Elysian FM powers to ban my company if we find out he can.

And I also have to point out I think there's a lot more actual RP potential in Elysians protesting Neko Burger than an FM banning it OOC from Yamatai and Elysia and the whole point of my article was to provide RP potential.
 
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My only real concern is the potential political fallout from Nepleslia legalizing this sort of business.

However, Nepleslia has always been known for the outlandish way in which it allows its citizens and society a great deal of freedom.

Those two concepts are in conflict here, so.

I see no problem not approving this in Nepleslia if three conditions are met:

1) These facilities are not to be built on actual Nepleslian planets. If they are built on some major asteroid field where people have to actively seek them out, I'm fine with that.

2) Distribution of certain foods need to be monitored by intelligence assets (i.e.: No kidnapping of sentient beings from the general lawful populace, be it in Imperium territory or foreign)

3) No public advertising of the restaurants are permitted, "public" being defined by print and electronic media. Word of mouth cannot be controlled, so that is the way in which it will be known.

Essentially, if this becomes some exclusive and hard-to-find establishment that adds flavor to the seedy underground elements of society and not solely something for "shock value," I will approve of it.
 
Like I've already said, Semjax, though a bit strongly, is correct in my sentiments. This will not be allowed in Elysian territory so long as it serves things that are parts of a sentient being, or even things just designed to taste or seem that way. They would find the very idea of it incredibly repugnant, and have no interest in allowing it to continue anywhere they have any say.
 
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