I think it's possible for Wes to change edit timers he might be able to make it so that people without moderation power for the NTSE board, just simply can't edit in the NTSE board.One thing I realized this morning is that, once approved, people can just edit their posts, right?
It's not really a concern, since nobody has ever posted in a submission just to be rude or obstruct it, so it's not like we're going to see people trying to skirt the process by editing.
I think the point I'm trying to make on the heels of Fred's Xenforo tutorial is that this is cool but it's also just a placebo. If that placebo works, great. But it's more constant responsibility for the mods and staff, as Fred pointed out, and little is actually different.
Just quoting so Wes knows how much I agree but I think you may have mixed up words. To clear up any confusion, when you said thread, you meant post, right? I agree with that.Unfortunately, I don't seem to have the possibility of approving a thread to be moderated within its context. Which is kind of a pain. All I can do so far is look at them all listed out of context in the moderated queue.
This has been said a ton because it's true and important. All it takes is a few PMs or DMs. And the FM/GM board exists. Or you could go FULL TOSHIRO and solicit public input throughout the whole process on everything you do. It's about comfort levels, tbh, and private messaging a few people beforehand is about as comfortable and non-confrontational as you can get.If people want their stuff approved fast, they need to make their submissions as close to approval ready as possible -before- it's approved. To do that, it'll likely involve those without much knowledge doing what they're supposed to, and talking to knowledgeable people and asking for help getting their ideas into a format that is SARP worthy -before- they take it to the NTSE.
I mean, this is literally what I kept repeating when bias was leveled at being given to me. I'm sure everyone can recall the like last 4 months that led to the Warlock. Then there was the ZARCNAM, which was shown off over the course of about 1-2. And then the Jackdaw that was about a month-ish. This is why I understand the idea we pushed for, but I still quote it not being the best compared to the most reasonable idea that I've proven already works.Yeah there's a reason that all my stuff has hardly any changes done when I make it. Usually it's just a matter of fixing formatting, grammar and technical stuff. I spend a lot of time on each article, and sometimes I even leave an article alone for like a month and then come back to it with a fresh perspective and check if it's balanced, talked to other people and see if they know anything like it and how htey'd use it, make sure I'm not repeating a product the company already has, and making sure it's comparable to other products like it out on the market. That way by time it goes to the NTSE, it's just a matter of detailing and it's ready.
Personally, this second part is what concerns me. Especially when we consider the fact that people's skins are so thin as is. People will very likely misconstrue blunt/direct feedback as insults or bitterness and potentially cloud-up/make it harder to understand the message that might have been initially conveyed.Xenforo has an edit history where moderators can see edits to posts and we can also see the edit history of each post and revert it if we need to.
Moderators approving posts have the option to remove any insults/bitterness and approve a nice version of the post, too.
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