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[Origin] Frame Spear
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mizunoyoroko
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Re: [Origin] Pilebunker Spear
I do however. Nothing indicates what the 'command' to activate it is (audio, electric, button, what?), you used NERIMIUM which is the equivelent of SHIP GRADE ARMOR and thus appropriately heavy. This spear will not work. The tip is literaly hundreds of times the weight of the rest of the body, anything using that spear without extending it will have a hard time effectively using it in combat, even if they have the strength to wield it the spear is unbalanced and could snap under its own weight if held any further down than 2/3. It's going to be near impossible as the shaft (which isn't made of equally heavy materials nor has any support listed in the article) extends which if the user is lucky will force the spear to bow considerably if not break it all out.
I do however. Nothing indicates what the 'command' to activate it is (audio, electric, button, what?), you used NERIMIUM which is the equivelent of SHIP GRADE ARMOR and thus appropriately heavy. This spear will not work. The tip is literaly hundreds of times the weight of the rest of the body, anything using that spear without extending it will have a hard time effectively using it in combat, even if they have the strength to wield it the spear is unbalanced and could snap under its own weight if held any further down than 2/3. It's going to be near impossible as the shaft (which isn't made of equally heavy materials nor has any support listed in the article) extends which if the user is lucky will force the spear to bow considerably if not break it all out.
Gamerofthegame
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Re: [Origin] Pilebunker Spear
And, also;
It's a melee weapon.
This technological level makes melee weapons silly, especially if the craft in question could already manuver in such away to attack with it's structure. Thus, making the melee weapon more powerful then the craft would mean it would have to have some sort of additional energy or such (Which it might have, as I am lazy and only got the brief over zee IRC)... Regardless, the craft could easily have this on it, too, and not waste the space while actually getting a stronger weapon, as the craft can use weight, inertia and integrity (As, logically, the craft's armor would be stronger/tougher/whatever then the weapon) to its advantage over a spear.
This is all assuming, of course, that the melee weapon is ever used in the first place. From a tactical, mindful view it really probably shouldn't, though I know SARP and its tendency to use the rule of cool...
And, also;
It's a melee weapon.
This technological level makes melee weapons silly, especially if the craft in question could already manuver in such away to attack with it's structure. Thus, making the melee weapon more powerful then the craft would mean it would have to have some sort of additional energy or such (Which it might have, as I am lazy and only got the brief over zee IRC)... Regardless, the craft could easily have this on it, too, and not waste the space while actually getting a stronger weapon, as the craft can use weight, inertia and integrity (As, logically, the craft's armor would be stronger/tougher/whatever then the weapon) to its advantage over a spear.
This is all assuming, of course, that the melee weapon is ever used in the first place. From a tactical, mindful view it really probably shouldn't, though I know SARP and its tendency to use the rule of cool...
Gamerofthegame
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Re: [Origin] Pilebunker Spear
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*Sigh.*
We do still want a degree of realism, otherwise we look like 13 year olds who watch to much anime making a Arr-pee site where all we do is fight in battles.
I'm just saying my opinion on the matter and what seems tactically sound in the universe of IC.
FiveMarks said:
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*Sigh.*
We do still want a degree of realism, otherwise we look like 13 year olds who watch to much anime making a Arr-pee site where all we do is fight in battles.
I'm just saying my opinion on the matter and what seems tactically sound in the universe of IC.
Gamerofthegame
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Re: [Origin] Pilebunker Spear
To be fair, both of those are constructed things that aren't of natural being at all, thus a leeway on the realism there can be given~.
To be fair, both of those are constructed things that aren't of natural being at all, thus a leeway on the realism there can be given~.
mizunoyoroko
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Re: [Origin] Pilebunker Spear
I am going to make another point. First let's keep the lesbian catgirls out of it, or at least the lesbian. If you can have catgirls the former isn't a stretch. After all, Neplolzia has horny gay men that are all stim'd up. ((just playing to stereotypes)) Anyway, onto the submission. It contains an nerimium shaft (however it's spelled) right? It launches it right? What's the range of the shot? The DR? Why the heck would somebody field this? Let's keep in mind that Nerimium is battleship grade material, thus it is quite pricey. It makes no sense to equip a unit with nerimium spikes when better alternatives are available and at a much lower cost.
I am going to make another point. First let's keep the lesbian catgirls out of it, or at least the lesbian. If you can have catgirls the former isn't a stretch. After all, Neplolzia has horny gay men that are all stim'd up. ((just playing to stereotypes)) Anyway, onto the submission. It contains an nerimium shaft (however it's spelled) right? It launches it right? What's the range of the shot? The DR? Why the heck would somebody field this? Let's keep in mind that Nerimium is battleship grade material, thus it is quite pricey. It makes no sense to equip a unit with nerimium spikes when better alternatives are available and at a much lower cost.
Re: [Origin] Pilebunker Spear
Criticizing this for being a melee weapon isn't a valid complaint. Judge it on its content and balance, not its form. Just because close combat doesn't float your boat doesn't mean it shouldn't be considered as a piece of technology.
Criticizing this for being a melee weapon isn't a valid complaint. Judge it on its content and balance, not its form. Just because close combat doesn't float your boat doesn't mean it shouldn't be considered as a piece of technology.
mizunoyoroko
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Re: [Origin] Pilebunker Spear
Good for it. That doesn't answer the question to why a military force would make a weapon that launches VERY EXPENSIVE materials at the enemy when there are MUCH CHEAPER BUT STILL AS DEADLY alternatives. Alternatives that don't require special production methods, whose materials are considerably cheaper, most likely even the time of production is again...considerably shorter.
Good for it. That doesn't answer the question to why a military force would make a weapon that launches VERY EXPENSIVE materials at the enemy when there are MUCH CHEAPER BUT STILL AS DEADLY alternatives. Alternatives that don't require special production methods, whose materials are considerably cheaper, most likely even the time of production is again...considerably shorter.
Gamerofthegame
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Re: [Origin] Pilebunker Spear
(Because, five, they aren't something natural and are created as a side bonus to them being warmachines. Well, neko at least, Mishhu are war machines all through.)
I am more criticizing the actual use of the weapon, and it's development, IC due to the factors mentioned.
That said...
How does a overall society who is thrust into a advanced age, having no memories or history of whatever it was they came from (IE: We'll assume Earth) save for just a faded legend know what a spear is?
(Because, five, they aren't something natural and are created as a side bonus to them being warmachines. Well, neko at least, Mishhu are war machines all through.)
I am more criticizing the actual use of the weapon, and it's development, IC due to the factors mentioned.
That said...
How does a overall society who is thrust into a advanced age, having no memories or history of whatever it was they came from (IE: We'll assume Earth) save for just a faded legend know what a spear is?
