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Sensor adapter

I'm not really seeing the Star Army using these at the moment...I think there needs to be more detail about exactly what this is and how it is used. The manufacturer is also missing.
 
My issue with this is more that I don't see the point of the submission. What exactly is this for anyways? An adaptor for the Mindy/Daisy, both whom are to a lesser or greater degree modular already?

Having some context with this would be nice so I could recognize its usefulness.
 
I derived it from the mission with the Moirai, the idea being that the sensors factory installed aren't the best for all purposes. We had to jury rig a connection to attach a sensor to Kumiko's PA during that mission, and I just think this could be useful. For instance, being able to set up your PA to be capable of long-range space or Indoors quickly could be a boon, like it would have been on that last mission.
 
This might be useful to you said:
"With the range of highly adaptable foreign armors, Yamataian armors comparatively appear technologically stagnant, locked in their configurations permanently.

In large numbers, a vast array of averages can be compiled and a very slim number of techniques used by Yamataian armor pilots arise. By following some very basic procedures and using the proper equipment, said armors can be flummoxed in numbers by very small numbers of skilled pilots because of the lack of available options and limited variety in training.

The module bonding system has the following advantages: -


  • 1) Circumventing the need for new armor (and therefor cost) this tool allows non-standard equipment to be securely and safely "bolted on" to Yamataian armor meaning they handle special missions far better and take advantage of the strengths of pilots work working in groups.

    2) By expanding the palette of available options to pilots, the number of possible battle-patterns rises and the techniques used to defeat pilots are invalidated because pilots react differently.

    3) While a base-configuration means all pilots have the same tools to work in teams, special equipment means in a tight situation, a team can pull together and a specialist unit is able to better the group - for example, a precision munitions or reconnaissance specialist may be able to strike targets of opportunity a typical Mindy armor pilot would be unable to strike without giving away their position and thus endangering pilots in a strategically unsound move.
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Synopsis:

Yamatai is too fixed in it's ways. Do a few billion simulations (not hard)and you can find patterns in how pilots act and exploit said patterns to completely thrash said pilot.

  • Considering the sheer numbers of these pilots, that would leave an enormous weakness in Yamatai's defenses: Any foreign pilots versed in these very very simple techniques would provide Yamataian pilots with a lot of trouble and remove their strategic importance by distracting them with target fixation (effectively herding cats)- allowing other units to strike freely at valuable targets like gunships and so forth.

This mechanism would likely solve this system -- I anticipated this with the Winter. Anyone who wants to make a variety of the armor can and will provided they pass a basic rank of significance.

This breeds a very slight sense of uniqueness and perhaps even ego among pilots - a competitive spirit is far better than any orgasm-button to encourage pilots.
 
I don't find Osaka's statement useful or even accurate. Yamatai pilots are not the same; that's why we use Nekos instead of robots. With simulations, you could just as easily find patterns in human pilots.

Futhermore, Osaka suggests the problem is predictable piloting but instead of a solution to that problem (helping the pilots), he instead suggests adding this bundle of wires.

If you're looking to customize Yamataian power armors, why not contribute to the MCAS project instead?
 
When he said predictable, I believe he was referring to the fact that there is only so much you can do with a standard set of equipment. And honestly, isn't the MCAS intended mainly for higher ranks? This is something starting characters could get, that would allow them to add a certain amount of uniqueness early on. I know that in addition to that point, the MCAS is kind of a one shot thing. Once you've built it, you have to rebuild it to get new stuff. Or at least spend some quality time with tools and parts. This is a quick fix, that would let you transfer between any kind of sensor,be they zero-g, atmospheric, or terran. I understand that all pilots are different, but they can only be unique so far as their equipment allows them to be.
 
I remember that being a problem with one of my character's though, that there wasn't a standard sized PA that he could fit in, and it would take a huge amount of time to get a custom one. But even if it's not, that isn't the point. The point is that this isn't really a method to create a personal PA, it's to make your existing PA more adaptable.
 
Every unit has a set path of responses, many vastly more common than others. All are limited strictly by feasibility for the unit in the given situation and the very simple construction and low adaptability and durability in terms of onboard systems of Yamatai armor is likely their biggest weakness because the number of patterns is tiny. This is especially true because you based them on the most ultra-conformist society on earth. In feudal times, they killed the black sheep.

"Conform, yield or die". That was Japan's motto. Sounds familiar.


  • Once you do the averages, any given unit has a set path of responses based on the options available to it. Yamataian pilots rely a lot on what they're granted and not what they can do - if something like CFS went down, they'd have near zero mobility and if aetherics went down, their destructive potential would effectively disappear.

    Each (CFS and Aetherics) are used in very specific ways. By finding points of opportunity in your enemy's combat patterns, you place them at a disadvantage they are not trained or prepared to overcome and thus they panic. Pilots become reliant and the armor posses no backups.

    What does this mean in plain english?

    • If you know where to hit them to disable, easy kills.

    This is one of the reasons why every few years, a nation releases a new whatever, regardless of whether or not it's war time in the real world. A fighter pilot can only work in so many ways and a pilot with a substantially better unit will be flummoxed when an experienced pilot from an older unit is granted similar capabilities because the experienced pilot will make the best of a bad situation based on experience.




    Nekos, on a very fundamental level, are just learning computers. They're all learning the same thing and are re-enforced emotionally in the exact same way whenever they are granted a kill.
    It's a known fact that using a cold reward system that doesn't actually treat performance - only the act of an enemy fatality - is effectively suicide for innovation because there is little (if any) encouragement.

    This is why I feel Yamatians are actually better pilots with the exception of the Samurai who go through insane levels of training.

    They should be re-training armor crews in their own methods, as a sort of teacher: Means players new to armor combat are introduced slowly and get a good feel for things.



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You want MCAS to work?
I wanted to do this with the Winter but I don't have a userbase for the unit yet.
You do so I'll leave you my insight:

You need to do the following:
  • Create one page for parts with part-names, one for existing configurations. Each configuration should be an entry on a list linking to the part names and an outline description of itself.
  • Outline some very basic pros/cons to different parts: Yamatium armor is lighter than zesuaium, zesuaium takes longer to procure and cannot be repaired (it is mission disposable) and zesuaium targets tend to take priority over lighter targets, for example. Do so under a "pros/cons" column.
  • Outline manufacturing times: From ordering, how long does it take for an MCAS ("EmCas"?) frame to arrive? Do the same based on parts.
  • Include a few base configurations on the existing configurations page, all mission ready for people to expand on. For the love of pete, include a Yamataian ready Mindy of some sort. People are begging for this and have been for MONTHS.
  • Why is there no big list of part names? Those KE-XXX-XX-X things? I'm sorry but they need to be made available.
  • An adaptor, for fitting non-Yamataian parts? A lot of armor pilots are tweakers and love this kind of thing.




All the best to everyone. Keep at it.


-Osaka
 
Osaka, this isn't a place for the MCAS discussion. Please, keep it to the sensor system. And plus, overall, everything you just said, is exactly what I said, in more technical terms. There's no need for that.
 
If we can get input of the GM whom runs the plotship this is going to be used in and have him vouch for him accepting the use of such a submission, I don't see what the problem would be regarding the approval of this.

I mean, Yukari made Yamataium armor covers for the Mindy II in my plotship and it was fine with me. It's not like there's a submission on it, though. Never felt there needed to be one. *shrugs*
 
I'm on the Eucharis now, but like I said, it's based on a situation that came up on the Moirai before it was disbanded. It's something I feel my character would use, and I think it could be more helpful to newer characters than building a PA from scratch, just to get a new sensor type.
 
everything you just said, is exactly what I said, in more technical terms. There's no need for that.
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Well no, but I am really good at it.
I mean that has to count for something.

amirite?
 
One thing before the topic reverts back to the sensors:

OsakanOne said:
This is especially true because you based them on the most ultra-conformist society on earth. In feudal times, they killed the black sheep.

"Conform, yield or die". That was Japan's motto. Sounds familiar.
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[url=http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Ghost_in_the_Shell:17fk371z]Major Kusanagi[/url] said:
"If we all reacted the same way, we'd be predictable, and there's always more than one way to view a situation. What's true for the group is also true for the individual. It's simple: overspecialize, and you breed in weakness. It's slow death."
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This was a comment in response to a question as to why the individuals in a particular strike team were not all the same. Each had their specialization, but the team as a whole was not overspecialized.
 
Submission Approved.
 
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