Dec 17, 2015 at 12:17 AM - Yoshi: the tabletop!
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:17 AM - Demonblooded: Yeah. Specialist Games.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:17 AM - Moogle: I know what Rogue Trader is.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:17 AM - LittleWasp: I try to be creepy and cute. c:
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:17 AM - Moogle: I meant that I'll stay away from modelaplalooza
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:17 AM - Yoshi: well Miss Waspy you have done well.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:17 AM - Zack: I'm so ready to go back to something GWish for strategy... Just played a brutal match of wargame. 10v10, no one on my team scored above 500 points except me, and I scored 2000. One T-80UK and one Tunguska-M vs the entirety of NATO
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:18 AM - Demonblooded: I really hope you can have the flexibility to modify or build your gothic fleet the way you could build your Rogue trader ship.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:18 AM - Yoshi: but but, Modlepalolooza is the meaning of life.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:18 AM - Yoshi: sorta you could.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:18 AM - Demonblooded: I have about 50 MKIV space marines chilling out behind me needing to be built and painted.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:19 AM - Yoshi: did you ever look at the old BFG rules?
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:19 AM - Moogle burns the plastic
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:19 AM - Demonblooded: Couldn't find anything in print.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:19 AM - Yoshi: well I have about the same points in tau I have to finish
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:19 AM - Demonblooded: Good thing they're resin.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:19 AM - Zack: They said 'Fully Customizable Ships and Commanders"
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:20 AM - Demonblooded: But are the armaments set based on the hull choice?
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:20 AM - Yoshi: for the video game or the tabletop?
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:20 AM - Zack: video game
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:20 AM - Demonblooded: Cause making a TP boat fleet sounds interesting.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:21 AM - Demonblooded: I'm talking tabletop BFG
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:21 AM - Zack: Not only are armaments based on hull, but there is location based damage!
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:21 AM - Yoshi: ah...
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:21 AM - Zack:
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:21 AM - Zack: Gameplay Deets
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:21 AM - Yoshi: able top you could do a bit of custonizing of the larger ships.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:22 AM - Yoshi: The smaller ones came more as is.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:23 AM - Yoshi: cause well they were pretty small.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:23 AM - Demonblooded: So no frigates built around a structural weapon or torp toob of choice like the Rogue Trader ship creation.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:24 AM - Zack: ramming looks good.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:24 AM - Yoshi: tle ship was the with of a dreadnought body
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:24 AM - Yoshi: you still up in Fedway?
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:24 AM - Demonblooded: Me?
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:25 AM - Yoshi: yes...
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:25 AM - Demonblooded: Yeah.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:25 AM - Yoshi tottaly not a creeper stalker....
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:25 AM - Yoshi: Ihave to be up in seatac either sat or sunday, IF I find my old BFG rule book I'll drop it off with you.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:26 AM - Yoshi: you can have a perusal
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:26 AM - Yoshi: hell I could find some of my old ships so you can get an idea of them.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:26 AM - Demonblooded: Cool. Let me know. My social life has been totally garbage since my new job started.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:26 AM - Demonblooded: Seen the models a few time.s
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:26 AM - Demonblooded: Some of the GWs here had them on display for a while.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:27 AM - Yoshi: cool.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:28 AM - Demonblooded: Haven't even been in contact with Sigma in like half a year.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:28 AM - Yoshi: to order all of mine off the website, cause I started collected them during their downfall
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:28 AM - Demonblooded: Probably longer.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:28 AM - Moogle: didn't sigma ragequit?
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:28 AM - Demonblooded: Dunno.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:28 AM - Yoshi shrug, after the crap I read that he left when he raged quite the last time, I wouldn't sweat it.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:28 AM - Demonblooded: I've been out of the loop for like a year and a half.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:28 AM - Yoshi: big time.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:29 AM - Yoshi: he left a nastygram and left.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:29 AM - Moogle: Oh right. Now I remember.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:29 AM - Moogle: It was when SFS began almost.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:29 AM - Moogle: and then something about a disagreement.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:29 AM - Demonblooded: Think he was trying to get me to transfer Talbain there.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:29 AM - Yoshi: yeah
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:30 AM - Zack: ah yes, the classic cycle
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:30 AM - Zack: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2010/12/13/the-things-we-do-for-love
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:30 AM - Yoshi: yeah but this was bad... like DAMN!!!
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:33 AM - Zack: sarp can get pretty toxic.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:34 AM - Zack: But it is RP, thus the cycle of DMing, Quitting in a huff, then returning.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:34 AM - Demonblooded: Don't think Arena.net is going to let me try GW2.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:35 AM - Moogle: Why;s that?
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:37 AM - Demonblooded: Account support page locks up if I try to do anything with GW2 options.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:37 AM - Demonblooded: And the patcher is feeding me an odd error.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:37 AM - Moogle: Browser?
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:37 AM - Moogle: Or just reinstall.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:37 AM - Demonblooded: any of the other options works fine.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:37 AM - Moogle: It could just be a bad install.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:38 AM - Demonblooded: Also I think the patcher is just because I don't have enough installed for actual run.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:38 AM - Demonblooded: Just was trying to preemptivly log in there.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:38 AM - Moogle: wait are you trying to log in through the client or on their website?
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:38 AM - Demonblooded: Both.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:39 AM - Demonblooded: Websight is janky when trying to interact with the GW2 information.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:39 AM - Moogle: Huh.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:39 AM - Moogle: Not sure what your problem is, haven't encountered it myself.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:39 AM - Demonblooded: Patcher is probably just being tempermental because of the install being nowhere near playable levels.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:39 AM - Moogle: Don't try to log-in on the client until the patcher is done.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:39 AM - Demonblooded: Also my display name looks like a product key from microsoft.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:39 AM - Moogle: That "log in while patching" thing is a relatively recent thing
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:40 AM - Moogle: Your in-character names can be different, thankfully.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:40 AM - Demonblooded: Isn't Battle.net from Diablo online play?
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:41 AM - Moogle: Battle.net is
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:41 AM - Moogle: arena.net isn't.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:41 AM - Demonblooded: gurf.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:42 AM - Demonblooded: Hurfing has experience a critical failure.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:43 AM - Moogle: :O
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:56 AM - Demonblooded: Welp. Apparently I can't try GW2 for free because I already have an account.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:56 AM - Demonblooded: But I don't have a registered key for the game so I need to make an account in order to play.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:57 AM - Demonblooded: Think it's time to pass out.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:57 AM - Wes: Same!
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:58 AM - Gunsight1: Wut? Sleep now?
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:59 AM - Yoshi: gUUUUUNNYYYY~
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:59 AM - Eistheid: Rest well.
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:00 AM - Gunsight1: Wuuuuuuuuttt?
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:00 AM - Moogle: DB, just use a different email or resend the key bro
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:00 AM - Moogle: oh well looks like I missed him
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:01 AM - Yoshi: hI.
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:01 AM - Gunsight1: Yo
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:01 AM - Yoshi: oh sarp i have big news!
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:03 AM - Yoshi: Big Big Big news!
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:03 AM - Gunsight1: Wut?
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:03 AM - Yoshi: So bit that if the news as a lizard Godzilla would have to be called to fight it.
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:04 AM - Gunsight1: Spill the beans!
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:04 AM - Zack: ?
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:04 AM - Yoshi: So huge that if I placed it upright It would knock up the moon.
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:06 AM - Moogle dropkicks yoshi for beating around the bush
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:07 AM - Yoshi: If it was a bush it would take years to beat around it
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:10 AM - Guest: What is it, if neither a lizard nor a bush?
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:11 AM - Guest: (^ is me)
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:11 AM - Guest: Test
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:12 AM - Guest: (Grey Library)
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:13 AM - Yoshi will annouce the Big news once the internet veiwing programs stops crashing...
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:13 AM - Yoshi Has tickets for STAR WARS on the day it is released!
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:14 AM - Yoshi is really excited cause he hasn't seen a movie on it's opening weekedn, let alone day, in 10 some years....
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:14 AM - Guest: Congratulations!
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:14 AM - Guest: Gaaaaaaaaaah
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:15 AM - Yoshi: I came home today to my lover as a concoring hero with these tickets!
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:15 AM - Guest: You going in a costume or anything?
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:16 AM - Yoshi: no..well maybe I might break out my heavy warm cloak that I wear for SCA/renn fairs, mainly cause it is fucking cold.
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:18 AM - Gunsight1: Wait. Thought you said your tickets were fkr friday?
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:18 AM - Yoshi: frieday the 18th, the offical opening day for the movie
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:18 AM - Guest: I see, have fun then. Lots of people excited about it too on my end.
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:20 AM - Yoshi: yeah. I'm prtty stoked, my wife like object is quite leery and talks aobut walking out if is is crappy, bu tI'm keeping the car keys so she'll have to wait in the cold if she does.
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:20 AM - Yoshi: muhahahahaha
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:25 AM - Guest: Don't go overboard, lest you somehow end up on the couch. It is much, much colder there.
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:25 AM - Yoshi: maybe.. but we don't ahve a couch anymore, I threw it out the window a few weeks ago.
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:26 AM - Guest: ....huh?
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:27 AM - Gunsight1: Flying couch!
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:27 AM - Guest: 'roid rage?
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:28 AM - Yoshi: yeah, sorta... we had to get rid of it, it was pretty crappy and old, os instead of trying to get it out the front door then around and down off the fromt porch we threw it out of the living room window, a story above the gournd.
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:29 AM - Guest: ...that's a fun way to take out the trash.
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:31 AM - Yoshi: yup
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:33 AM - Gunsight1: Time
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:33 AM - Gunsight1: To
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:33 AM - Gunsight1: Go
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:33 AM - Gunsight1: Home
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:33 AM - Gunsight1: !
Dec 17, 2015 at 2:17 AM - Guest: D'aww, that rabbit's frowning expression is adorable.
Dec 17, 2015 at 2:17 AM - Guest: (Grey)
Dec 17, 2015 at 10:53 AM - Wes: I've updated our site rules a bit: https://wiki.stararmy.com/doku.php?id=guide:rules
Dec 17, 2015 at 10:54 AM - Wes: Notable tweaks: Don't get into edit wars with mods, what images are okay to upload
Dec 17, 2015 at 10:58 AM - Moogle: What about theft of other user's work, hm?
Dec 17, 2015 at 10:58 AM - Wes: What do you mean?
Dec 17, 2015 at 10:59 AM - Moogle: I saw the revision history of the asura article.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:00 AM - Wes: Star Army users have the right to edit other stuff on Star Army. So if User A adds an article, User B can make changes. That's how wikis work.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:00 AM - Wes: These changes should be for the good of the article and based on what's happening in the RP, if applicable.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:01 AM - Moogle: True. But if it's an unsubmitted article and the user wants to scrap it, they should have the right to.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:02 AM - Wes: Ultimately content contriubuted to Star Army is for Star Army's use as a whole, not for any particular user, even the author.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:02 AM - Wes: Just because someone leaves in a rage doesn't mean we're going to remove their faction or whatever from the Star Army universe.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:03 AM - Wes: That would break our RP, potentially.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:03 AM - Wes: So our TOS is that once it's on here, it's Star Army's to use as we need.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:03 AM - Zack: is there an official policy on an active user requesting their stuff not be used by other users? Such as editing their wiki articles or color shifting someone's artwork?
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:04 AM - Wes: Not presently.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:04 AM - Moogle: I said unsubmitted work, wes. Not submitted and approved.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:05 AM - Wes: For purposes of TOS, submitted means it exists on the site. Someone uploaded it or saved it.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:05 AM - Moogle: :s
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:06 AM - Wes: There may be room for some more clear rules or policy on this. Something to discuss in a forum thread perhaps.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:07 AM - Wes: But basically there's no technical reason right now why people can't mess with the stuff you added to SARP and add their own stuff to it.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:07 AM - Wes: It's supposed to be collaborative. If people are disagreeing over the nature of an article, they should work it out on the forum.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:08 AM - Wes: When things can't be worked out, it falls to me to make the final call, since I'm the guy who controls what is canon.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:10 AM - Wes: That said, we should try to be generally respectful of other people's creations (at least as long as they're a member).
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:12 AM - Wes: Also you have to account for faction managers having a bigger say over anything happening in their area of influence.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:13 AM - Wes: For example if I add a new uniform to Nepleslia, I need FM approval.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:13 AM - Wes: Anyway, those are my thoughts on that.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:13 AM - Aendri: I think what Mog was referring to was editing an in-progress article without the author's consent should not be something that is allowed. Once it's complete, or if permission has been asked, sure, but if I have something up that I'm working on, I don't want someone else poking it just because it's up on the wiki, and therefor SA property.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:17 AM - FrostJaeger: XD
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:17 AM - Foxtrot 813: Wew lads
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:18 AM - FrostJaeger: Well, time to move all of my WIP articles over to my private JP pad
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:20 AM - Dragonnova: The take away is: Don't put incomplete or in progress things on the wiki. At all
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:20 AM - FrostJaeger: Yep.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:20 AM - Wes: It was a WIP for my faction, Aendri.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:21 AM - Aendri: It was a WIP, is the point, Wes. It wasn't submitted, up for approval, or anything.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:21 AM - Aendri: You have no idea if you would've liked the end product.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:21 AM - Dragonnova: You are wayyyyyyy too protective of 'your faction', wes. You're doing that thing again where you're acting less like a GM and more like a FM with a power trip
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:22 AM - Aendri: If you don't like how a submission looks when it goes up for approval, then speak up, but that random editing of other people's WIP articles just pushes people away from putting anything up until the second they submit it.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:23 AM - Zack: This is SOP for any site with user submitted content. legally you couldn't operate a site without this kind of setup... if you don't want people to touch your stuff when you're on a collaborative endevor then you're going to have a bad time.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:24 AM - Dragonnova: You're sidestepping the issue, Uso. Get off of wes lap for a second.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:24 AM - FrostJaeger: 1.481234843e10394/10 DN
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:24 AM - Wes: I don't appreciate you being disrespectful to Zack.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:24 AM - FrostJaeger: XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:24 AM - Aendri: It's about common courtesy, Zack. The user hadn't asked for input from anyone, the article hadn't been posted for approval, or anything. It was literally him putting down ideas at that point. If I can't THINK without it being interfered with, I don't want to take part.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:25 AM - FrostJaeger: oh gawd!
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:25 AM - FrostJaeger: IT'S THE THOUGHT POLICE!
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:25 AM - Dragonnova: And everyone doesn't appreciate his snark when they have a concern and are trying to present it calmly.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:25 AM - Aendri: Part of what makes this site great is that we CAN work on our own projects on the side without having to worry about them mysteriously changing. If we can't develop our own articles for submission freely, then why should we bother?
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:25 AM - FrostJaeger: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:26 AM - Dragonnova sighs.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:26 AM - Dragonnova: I don't think I can contribute to this without hanging a lampshade on your attitude towards your players wes. I'll bow out here.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:26 AM - Wes: Maybe one issue is that sandboxes are currently not really even allowed and certainly not considered protected spaces.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:26 AM - Zack: Then mark it as such on the wiki page, you options for resolving this problem that don't involve breaking the site's wiki. You also have a setting discussion forum and a GM forum (maybe) to get on the same page with your FM
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:27 AM - Aendri: It WAS marked as a WIP.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:27 AM - Aendri: And WAS being discussed as part of a setup for a plot.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:28 AM - Zack: WIP not 'please no one touch this without asking' WIP is the standard, no one touch would be a special exception you're asking for.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:28 AM - Zack: Make it clear what your wishes are, and how you want people to interact with you.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:28 AM - Aendri: And either one of those was violated, since nobody was asked. Thanks for trying, though.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:28 AM - FrostJaeger: XD
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:29 AM - Foxtrot 813: I didn't know you also had to put up a plaque saying people not to touch a painting you're working on.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:17 AM - Demonblooded: Yeah. Specialist Games.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:17 AM - Moogle: I know what Rogue Trader is.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:17 AM - LittleWasp: I try to be creepy and cute. c:
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:17 AM - Moogle: I meant that I'll stay away from modelaplalooza
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:17 AM - Yoshi: well Miss Waspy you have done well.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:17 AM - Zack: I'm so ready to go back to something GWish for strategy... Just played a brutal match of wargame. 10v10, no one on my team scored above 500 points except me, and I scored 2000. One T-80UK and one Tunguska-M vs the entirety of NATO
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:18 AM - Demonblooded: I really hope you can have the flexibility to modify or build your gothic fleet the way you could build your Rogue trader ship.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:18 AM - Yoshi: but but, Modlepalolooza is the meaning of life.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:18 AM - Yoshi: sorta you could.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:18 AM - Demonblooded: I have about 50 MKIV space marines chilling out behind me needing to be built and painted.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:19 AM - Yoshi: did you ever look at the old BFG rules?
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:19 AM - Moogle burns the plastic
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:19 AM - Demonblooded: Couldn't find anything in print.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:19 AM - Yoshi: well I have about the same points in tau I have to finish
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:19 AM - Demonblooded: Good thing they're resin.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:19 AM - Zack: They said 'Fully Customizable Ships and Commanders"
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:20 AM - Demonblooded: But are the armaments set based on the hull choice?
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:20 AM - Yoshi: for the video game or the tabletop?
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:20 AM - Zack: video game
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:20 AM - Demonblooded: Cause making a TP boat fleet sounds interesting.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:21 AM - Demonblooded: I'm talking tabletop BFG
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:21 AM - Zack: Not only are armaments based on hull, but there is location based damage!
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:21 AM - Yoshi: ah...
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:21 AM - Zack:
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:21 AM - Yoshi: able top you could do a bit of custonizing of the larger ships.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:22 AM - Yoshi: The smaller ones came more as is.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:23 AM - Yoshi: cause well they were pretty small.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:23 AM - Demonblooded: So no frigates built around a structural weapon or torp toob of choice like the Rogue Trader ship creation.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:24 AM - Zack: ramming looks good.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:24 AM - Yoshi: tle ship was the with of a dreadnought body
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:24 AM - Yoshi: you still up in Fedway?
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:24 AM - Demonblooded: Me?
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:25 AM - Yoshi: yes...
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:25 AM - Demonblooded: Yeah.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:25 AM - Yoshi tottaly not a creeper stalker....
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:25 AM - Yoshi: Ihave to be up in seatac either sat or sunday, IF I find my old BFG rule book I'll drop it off with you.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:26 AM - Yoshi: you can have a perusal
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:26 AM - Yoshi: hell I could find some of my old ships so you can get an idea of them.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:26 AM - Demonblooded: Cool. Let me know. My social life has been totally garbage since my new job started.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:26 AM - Demonblooded: Seen the models a few time.s
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:26 AM - Demonblooded: Some of the GWs here had them on display for a while.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:27 AM - Yoshi: cool.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:28 AM - Demonblooded: Haven't even been in contact with Sigma in like half a year.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:28 AM - Yoshi: to order all of mine off the website, cause I started collected them during their downfall
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:28 AM - Demonblooded: Probably longer.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:28 AM - Moogle: didn't sigma ragequit?
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:28 AM - Demonblooded: Dunno.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:28 AM - Yoshi shrug, after the crap I read that he left when he raged quite the last time, I wouldn't sweat it.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:28 AM - Demonblooded: I've been out of the loop for like a year and a half.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:28 AM - Yoshi: big time.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:29 AM - Yoshi: he left a nastygram and left.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:29 AM - Moogle: Oh right. Now I remember.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:29 AM - Moogle: It was when SFS began almost.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:29 AM - Moogle: and then something about a disagreement.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:29 AM - Demonblooded: Think he was trying to get me to transfer Talbain there.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:29 AM - Yoshi: yeah
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:30 AM - Zack: ah yes, the classic cycle
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:30 AM - Zack: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2010/12/13/the-things-we-do-for-love
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:30 AM - Yoshi: yeah but this was bad... like DAMN!!!
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:33 AM - Zack: sarp can get pretty toxic.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:34 AM - Zack: But it is RP, thus the cycle of DMing, Quitting in a huff, then returning.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:34 AM - Demonblooded: Don't think Arena.net is going to let me try GW2.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:35 AM - Moogle: Why;s that?
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:37 AM - Demonblooded: Account support page locks up if I try to do anything with GW2 options.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:37 AM - Demonblooded: And the patcher is feeding me an odd error.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:37 AM - Moogle: Browser?
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:37 AM - Moogle: Or just reinstall.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:37 AM - Demonblooded: any of the other options works fine.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:37 AM - Moogle: It could just be a bad install.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:38 AM - Demonblooded: Also I think the patcher is just because I don't have enough installed for actual run.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:38 AM - Demonblooded: Just was trying to preemptivly log in there.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:38 AM - Moogle: wait are you trying to log in through the client or on their website?
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:38 AM - Demonblooded: Both.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:39 AM - Demonblooded: Websight is janky when trying to interact with the GW2 information.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:39 AM - Moogle: Huh.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:39 AM - Moogle: Not sure what your problem is, haven't encountered it myself.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:39 AM - Demonblooded: Patcher is probably just being tempermental because of the install being nowhere near playable levels.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:39 AM - Moogle: Don't try to log-in on the client until the patcher is done.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:39 AM - Demonblooded: Also my display name looks like a product key from microsoft.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:39 AM - Moogle: That "log in while patching" thing is a relatively recent thing
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:40 AM - Moogle: Your in-character names can be different, thankfully.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:40 AM - Demonblooded: Isn't Battle.net from Diablo online play?
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:41 AM - Moogle: Battle.net is
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:41 AM - Moogle: arena.net isn't.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:41 AM - Demonblooded: gurf.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:42 AM - Demonblooded: Hurfing has experience a critical failure.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:43 AM - Moogle: :O
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:56 AM - Demonblooded: Welp. Apparently I can't try GW2 for free because I already have an account.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:56 AM - Demonblooded: But I don't have a registered key for the game so I need to make an account in order to play.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:57 AM - Demonblooded: Think it's time to pass out.
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:57 AM - Wes: Same!
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:58 AM - Gunsight1: Wut? Sleep now?
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:59 AM - Yoshi: gUUUUUNNYYYY~
Dec 17, 2015 at 12:59 AM - Eistheid: Rest well.
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:00 AM - Gunsight1: Wuuuuuuuuttt?
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:00 AM - Moogle: DB, just use a different email or resend the key bro
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:00 AM - Moogle: oh well looks like I missed him
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:01 AM - Yoshi: hI.
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:01 AM - Gunsight1: Yo
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:01 AM - Yoshi: oh sarp i have big news!
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:03 AM - Yoshi: Big Big Big news!
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:03 AM - Gunsight1: Wut?
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:03 AM - Yoshi: So bit that if the news as a lizard Godzilla would have to be called to fight it.
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:04 AM - Gunsight1: Spill the beans!
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:04 AM - Zack: ?
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:04 AM - Yoshi: So huge that if I placed it upright It would knock up the moon.
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:06 AM - Moogle dropkicks yoshi for beating around the bush
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:07 AM - Yoshi: If it was a bush it would take years to beat around it
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:10 AM - Guest: What is it, if neither a lizard nor a bush?
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:11 AM - Guest: (^ is me)
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:11 AM - Guest: Test
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:12 AM - Guest: (Grey Library)
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:13 AM - Yoshi will annouce the Big news once the internet veiwing programs stops crashing...
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:13 AM - Yoshi Has tickets for STAR WARS on the day it is released!
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:14 AM - Yoshi is really excited cause he hasn't seen a movie on it's opening weekedn, let alone day, in 10 some years....
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:14 AM - Guest: Congratulations!
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:14 AM - Guest: Gaaaaaaaaaah
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:15 AM - Yoshi: I came home today to my lover as a concoring hero with these tickets!
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:15 AM - Guest: You going in a costume or anything?
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:16 AM - Yoshi: no..well maybe I might break out my heavy warm cloak that I wear for SCA/renn fairs, mainly cause it is fucking cold.
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:18 AM - Gunsight1: Wait. Thought you said your tickets were fkr friday?
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:18 AM - Yoshi: frieday the 18th, the offical opening day for the movie
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:18 AM - Guest: I see, have fun then. Lots of people excited about it too on my end.
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:20 AM - Yoshi: yeah. I'm prtty stoked, my wife like object is quite leery and talks aobut walking out if is is crappy, bu tI'm keeping the car keys so she'll have to wait in the cold if she does.
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:20 AM - Yoshi: muhahahahaha
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:25 AM - Guest: Don't go overboard, lest you somehow end up on the couch. It is much, much colder there.
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:25 AM - Yoshi: maybe.. but we don't ahve a couch anymore, I threw it out the window a few weeks ago.
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:26 AM - Guest: ....huh?
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:27 AM - Gunsight1: Flying couch!
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:27 AM - Guest: 'roid rage?
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:28 AM - Yoshi: yeah, sorta... we had to get rid of it, it was pretty crappy and old, os instead of trying to get it out the front door then around and down off the fromt porch we threw it out of the living room window, a story above the gournd.
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:29 AM - Guest: ...that's a fun way to take out the trash.
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:31 AM - Yoshi: yup
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:33 AM - Gunsight1: Time
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:33 AM - Gunsight1: To
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:33 AM - Gunsight1: Go
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:33 AM - Gunsight1: Home
Dec 17, 2015 at 1:33 AM - Gunsight1: !
Dec 17, 2015 at 2:17 AM - Guest: D'aww, that rabbit's frowning expression is adorable.
Dec 17, 2015 at 2:17 AM - Guest: (Grey)
Dec 17, 2015 at 10:53 AM - Wes: I've updated our site rules a bit: https://wiki.stararmy.com/doku.php?id=guide:rules
Dec 17, 2015 at 10:54 AM - Wes: Notable tweaks: Don't get into edit wars with mods, what images are okay to upload
Dec 17, 2015 at 10:58 AM - Moogle: What about theft of other user's work, hm?
Dec 17, 2015 at 10:58 AM - Wes: What do you mean?
Dec 17, 2015 at 10:59 AM - Moogle: I saw the revision history of the asura article.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:00 AM - Wes: Star Army users have the right to edit other stuff on Star Army. So if User A adds an article, User B can make changes. That's how wikis work.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:00 AM - Wes: These changes should be for the good of the article and based on what's happening in the RP, if applicable.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:01 AM - Moogle: True. But if it's an unsubmitted article and the user wants to scrap it, they should have the right to.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:02 AM - Wes: Ultimately content contriubuted to Star Army is for Star Army's use as a whole, not for any particular user, even the author.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:02 AM - Wes: Just because someone leaves in a rage doesn't mean we're going to remove their faction or whatever from the Star Army universe.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:03 AM - Wes: That would break our RP, potentially.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:03 AM - Wes: So our TOS is that once it's on here, it's Star Army's to use as we need.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:03 AM - Zack: is there an official policy on an active user requesting their stuff not be used by other users? Such as editing their wiki articles or color shifting someone's artwork?
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:04 AM - Wes: Not presently.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:04 AM - Moogle: I said unsubmitted work, wes. Not submitted and approved.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:05 AM - Wes: For purposes of TOS, submitted means it exists on the site. Someone uploaded it or saved it.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:05 AM - Moogle: :s
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:06 AM - Wes: There may be room for some more clear rules or policy on this. Something to discuss in a forum thread perhaps.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:07 AM - Wes: But basically there's no technical reason right now why people can't mess with the stuff you added to SARP and add their own stuff to it.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:07 AM - Wes: It's supposed to be collaborative. If people are disagreeing over the nature of an article, they should work it out on the forum.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:08 AM - Wes: When things can't be worked out, it falls to me to make the final call, since I'm the guy who controls what is canon.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:10 AM - Wes: That said, we should try to be generally respectful of other people's creations (at least as long as they're a member).
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:12 AM - Wes: Also you have to account for faction managers having a bigger say over anything happening in their area of influence.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:13 AM - Wes: For example if I add a new uniform to Nepleslia, I need FM approval.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:13 AM - Wes: Anyway, those are my thoughts on that.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:13 AM - Aendri: I think what Mog was referring to was editing an in-progress article without the author's consent should not be something that is allowed. Once it's complete, or if permission has been asked, sure, but if I have something up that I'm working on, I don't want someone else poking it just because it's up on the wiki, and therefor SA property.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:17 AM - FrostJaeger: XD
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:17 AM - Foxtrot 813: Wew lads
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:18 AM - FrostJaeger: Well, time to move all of my WIP articles over to my private JP pad
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:20 AM - Dragonnova: The take away is: Don't put incomplete or in progress things on the wiki. At all
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:20 AM - FrostJaeger: Yep.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:20 AM - Wes: It was a WIP for my faction, Aendri.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:21 AM - Aendri: It was a WIP, is the point, Wes. It wasn't submitted, up for approval, or anything.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:21 AM - Aendri: You have no idea if you would've liked the end product.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:21 AM - Dragonnova: You are wayyyyyyy too protective of 'your faction', wes. You're doing that thing again where you're acting less like a GM and more like a FM with a power trip
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:22 AM - Aendri: If you don't like how a submission looks when it goes up for approval, then speak up, but that random editing of other people's WIP articles just pushes people away from putting anything up until the second they submit it.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:23 AM - Zack: This is SOP for any site with user submitted content. legally you couldn't operate a site without this kind of setup... if you don't want people to touch your stuff when you're on a collaborative endevor then you're going to have a bad time.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:24 AM - Dragonnova: You're sidestepping the issue, Uso. Get off of wes lap for a second.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:24 AM - FrostJaeger: 1.481234843e10394/10 DN
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:24 AM - Wes: I don't appreciate you being disrespectful to Zack.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:24 AM - FrostJaeger: XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:24 AM - Aendri: It's about common courtesy, Zack. The user hadn't asked for input from anyone, the article hadn't been posted for approval, or anything. It was literally him putting down ideas at that point. If I can't THINK without it being interfered with, I don't want to take part.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:25 AM - FrostJaeger: oh gawd!
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:25 AM - FrostJaeger: IT'S THE THOUGHT POLICE!
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:25 AM - Dragonnova: And everyone doesn't appreciate his snark when they have a concern and are trying to present it calmly.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:25 AM - Aendri: Part of what makes this site great is that we CAN work on our own projects on the side without having to worry about them mysteriously changing. If we can't develop our own articles for submission freely, then why should we bother?
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:25 AM - FrostJaeger: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:26 AM - Dragonnova sighs.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:26 AM - Dragonnova: I don't think I can contribute to this without hanging a lampshade on your attitude towards your players wes. I'll bow out here.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:26 AM - Wes: Maybe one issue is that sandboxes are currently not really even allowed and certainly not considered protected spaces.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:26 AM - Zack: Then mark it as such on the wiki page, you options for resolving this problem that don't involve breaking the site's wiki. You also have a setting discussion forum and a GM forum (maybe) to get on the same page with your FM
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:27 AM - Aendri: It WAS marked as a WIP.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:27 AM - Aendri: And WAS being discussed as part of a setup for a plot.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:28 AM - Zack: WIP not 'please no one touch this without asking' WIP is the standard, no one touch would be a special exception you're asking for.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:28 AM - Zack: Make it clear what your wishes are, and how you want people to interact with you.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:28 AM - Aendri: And either one of those was violated, since nobody was asked. Thanks for trying, though.
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:28 AM - FrostJaeger: XD
Dec 17, 2015 at 11:29 AM - Foxtrot 813: I didn't know you also had to put up a plaque saying people not to touch a painting you're working on.