Star Army Military Police

[Ethereal]

Submission Type: Yamataian Corps
Submission URL: https://wiki.stararmy.com/doku.php?id=wip:stararmy:star_army_military_police

Faction:
FM Approved Yet? Wes gave me permission to recreate the MP
Faction requires art? Unsure

For Reviewers:
Contains Unapproved Sub-Articles? Yes
https://wiki.stararmy.com/doku.php?id=stararmy:occupations:investigator

Contains New art? Yes
Previously Submitted? No

Notes:
I decided on a whim to create an entire corps with four branches, three professions, a working legal system with detailed punishments and legal terms plus professional documentation as well as IC history surrounding the reforms as well as giving the corps a figurehead.

P.S. Good luck to the person who decides to look into approving the Articles of Military Justice, there's so much there if it requires its own submission that's fine. @Wes should probably have a look at some point to make sure I'm not off-piste given how centrally Yamataian this is.

 

[Ametheliana]

What is this?

https://wiki.stararmy.com/doku.php?id=members:sean_oduibher:concepts:articles_of_military_justice

 

[Ethereal]

Old link, it was in the original contributor's namespace but I moved it to the general WIP namespace I was using, should be fixed

 

[Ametheliana]

@Wes have you looked this over?

 

[META_mahn]

Since Ame is here, I don't think my presence is that required, but...

• What is the fundamental difference between SAINT and the MPs? (Preferred if it was noted early in the article.)
• Nothing else for now.

It's cool to see this submission. (Yay, Yamatai can't be the average D&D party anymore. )

 

[Ametheliana]

You can take this submission like you asked in discord, Mets.

 

[raz]

What is the fundamental difference between SAINT and the MPs?

Apples and oranges, my man. It's the same difference as real life cops and spies. SAINT is a military intelligence agency tasked with gathering useful information about the Star Army of Yamatai's external enemies while an Investigator's job is to maintain internal order and make sure SAoY soldiers are following the law.

 

[Ethereal]

Basically as Raz said. SAINT focus on external threats to national security (terrorists, insurrectionists), SAMP would focus on internal threats to national security, (mutineers, sedition, war crimes)

A big part of the MP is also dealing with war crimes. While not officially stated this includes keeping them quiet but making sure the perpetrator is punished. While this might seem a bit dumb to some, the only real reason they do so (due to being self-managed by the SA) is to prevent such things being leaked to the public or diplomaic partners. If a genocide committed by a soldier got out that's bad and can damage the SA's image of being a trustworthy moral agency, if it gets out and it's found they were never punished at all that's even worse. The MP deal with both those things.

 

[Ametheliana]

Now I'm just imaging one soldier genociding and having a hard time doing so on their own.

 

[Ethereal]

They don't have to be on their own. Elaborated on the SAINT/MP differences in the start paragraph now.

 

[Ethereal]

I'm just going to note here that if any GM decides they want crimes unpunished in their plots - as is their right - I included a get-out-clause in the form of non-judicial punishment in times of war. It states the commanding officer (i.e. Starship Captain, the GM) can issue punishment as they see fit to whatever level they see fit.

I also mention this can get them reviewed if it's a totally-off punishment but there's the clause for not punishing anyway.

 

[Wes]

The occupational articles seem to have a noticeable amount of copy pasta.

 

[Ethereal]

I wasn't sure about whether I could alter the artwork so I kept in the same art and there's no occupation template so I tried to keep it as uniform as possible so it may seem that way.

Edit: Added a reason why reforms were made, included on the new NPC article for Feyani

 

[META_mahn]

This review is for: Star Army Military Police

The submitted article is/has…
[ yup ] A very high level of overall quality
[ yup ] A general topic sentence under the title header
[ yup ] Artwork (Required for new species; Strongly recommended for vehicles and hand weapons)\\

• Uniform art. Already got that.

[ yup ] Needed and/or useful to the setting

• It's not new, it's just never been developed.

[ yup ] In the proper format/template
[ yup ] Proofread for spelling and grammar
[ yup ] Easy to read and understand (not a lengthy mass of technobabble)
[ yup ] Wikified (terms that could be a link should be a link)
[ yup ] No red and/or broken links
[ yup ] Reasonably scientifically plausible
[ yup ] Reasonably neutral point of view

The submitted article is/does not…
[ noh ] Overpowered (or cutting tech for a faction with little or no roleplay)
[ noh ] Obtusely redundant
[ noh ] Contain copy pasta descriptions of systems or interior compartments
[ noh ] Unauthorized by faction managers or player-controlled corporation
[ noh ] Contain references to IC events that have not occurred (SM must authorize retcons)
[ noh ] Use second-person language (“you” or “your”) unless it is an instructional guide aimed at players.
[ noh ] Use bombastic language (“virtually immune,” “nearly indestructible,” “insanely powerful,” “horrible effects”)
[ noh ] Use an unbalanced header/text ratio (many headers but sections are one-liners)
[ noh ] Use major unapproved sub-articles that should be submitted separately
[ noh ] Lacking Detail
[ noh ] Images hosted on sites other than stararmy.com (Photobucket, Imageshack, etc are not allowed)

The article has…
[ n/a ] Speeds in compliance with the Starship Speed Standard, if applicable
[ n/a ] Damage Capacity and Damage Ratings in compliance with the DR Guidelines
[ n/a ] The in-character year of creation/manufacture. (Should be current year. Future years not allowed).
[ n/a ] The Standard Product Nomenclature System, if applicable.


Summary
EVERYTHING IS OKAY NOW

Status: Approved

Notes
u gud

I have finished this review on: 9/29/2017

 

[Ethereal]

Split off the Articles and rolled the 3 occupations into one page.

 

[raz]

The article's really cool. I'd like to suggest that the Logistics wiki format be made into a template for military organizations now that it's been used for Logistics, SAINT, and now this. It works so well for presenting basic information and fleshing out the meat and potatoes of military corps. Anyway, that's kind of an aside.

@Wes, I was wondering if this was going to become a top-level command (Command, Logistics, SAINT, SARA, SANDRA, etc.) after the reorganization or if it's subordinate to Star Army Command itself. Doesn't matter much except for putting on the sidebar and Star Army landing page.

One minor thing I noticed is that the infobox says the Yamatai Department of Justice regulates the SAMPs. Technically, the Premier's departments hold zero power over the Star Army at all and can't really force the latter to accept its regulatory oversight. That infobox is the only mention of it, though, and the article's text itself says the MPs simply work closely with the DoJ so it's not a big deal. Just something I noticed.

 

[Ethereal]

I'll change the wording of the infobox to a more accurate description.

 

[META_mahn]

Now that I have finished the review of the Articles...

its k
(Approved)

 

[Wes]

This should not have been approved because I never posted my FM approval in this thread.

 

[raz]

The Star Army of Yamatai began training special investigators in YE 39 in response to the realization that standard investigators were not capable of dealing with extreme high-level breaches of regulation. Prior to their formation SAINT performed the duties of special investigators on an ad-hoc basis based on their ability but it soon came to light they were simply not trained to handle matters in a manner acceptable by the Yamatai Department of Justice.

Just as a history note, this isn't true at all. Prior to "special investigators," normal investigators did this stuff. SAINT has never been the Star Army's internal affairs department.