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[UOC] Amaterasu-Class BattleCruiser
- Thread starter Soresu
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Considering foam is mostly air, how effective is a foam system going to be in a vacuum?
What effect do you think this has on DR, if any?
https://wiki.stararmy.com/doku.php?id=un ... ion_system
When was this approved?
DocTomoe
Inactive Member
Mmkay, lets see here. I'm going to help the man out since he is more than likely busy at the moment.
First off, the foam. I'm the one who gave the guy the suggestion. I recall that method going by just fine in the past, but since it isn't going by okay this time I think I'll help Soresu out and provide an alternative such as pico-jelly.
Second, the DR was listed earlier in the article, its SP 40 and Threshold 4.
Third, the ablative armor system I submitted back before I put the Raptor-Class up for review since I wrote it along with the Raptor-Class. It passed through without much of a fuss.
First off, the foam. I'm the one who gave the guy the suggestion. I recall that method going by just fine in the past, but since it isn't going by okay this time I think I'll help Soresu out and provide an alternative such as pico-jelly.
Second, the DR was listed earlier in the article, its SP 40 and Threshold 4.
Third, the ablative armor system I submitted back before I put the Raptor-Class up for review since I wrote it along with the Raptor-Class. It passed through without much of a fuss.
Zack
Inactive Member
https://wiki.stararmy.com/doku.php?id=um ... _gammatron
What does this fire exactly? There are a lot of words in the tech description but none of them really seem to mean anything other than saying something happens then things explode. Where the reactions occur and what they are used to do aren't even really described at all.
Aside from that, I am also fairly sure the weapon wouldn't work. Carbon + uranium doesn't make anti-matter, Gamma rays don't react with positrons in that way, and an anti-matter reaction wouldn't create a 'void' in space.
What does this fire exactly? There are a lot of words in the tech description but none of them really seem to mean anything other than saying something happens then things explode. Where the reactions occur and what they are used to do aren't even really described at all.
Aside from that, I am also fairly sure the weapon wouldn't work. Carbon + uranium doesn't make anti-matter, Gamma rays don't react with positrons in that way, and an anti-matter reaction wouldn't create a 'void' in space.
Soresu
Well-Known Member
Uso said:
I'm sorry, but if you have nothing constructive to add on the entire design beyond harping about a weapon already approved for use by the Boss Man himself who has deemed it passable, and usable in the setting and is on a number of designs already which have all passed, why are you in here?
Zack
Inactive Member
Because this ship's main gun doesn't make sense?
It says it fires radiation emissions in one part, and then some sort of physical round in the next. The description of how the gun works also doesn't make sense IE: it explains some sort of reaction (which couldn't work because gamma rays are not a positron's anti-particle among other things) but it dosen't explain how that reaction relates to the gun in any way.
I also don't know when this was approved as it seems to have been created only a few days ago.
I also don't see it being used on any other ships listed on the wiki.
It says it fires radiation emissions in one part, and then some sort of physical round in the next. The description of how the gun works also doesn't make sense IE: it explains some sort of reaction (which couldn't work because gamma rays are not a positron's anti-particle among other things) but it dosen't explain how that reaction relates to the gun in any way.
I also don't know when this was approved as it seems to have been created only a few days ago.
I also don't see it being used on any other ships listed on the wiki.
DocTomoe
Inactive Member
Zack
Inactive Member
Ok, but the weapon still doesn't make any sense.
Gamma rays and positrons are not anti-particles
Gamma radiation can't be 'destroyed'
Creating a literal void in space couldn't be done with carbon and uranium.
Changing the wavelength of a gamma ray would change it to a different type of radiation.
Positrons are not radiation.
A nuclear fission reaction on that scale would be significant because it is what is producing the radiation and it changes the two elements into a new element.
The above would also not produce a positron.
Gamma rays and positrons are not anti-particles
Gamma radiation can't be 'destroyed'
Creating a literal void in space couldn't be done with carbon and uranium.
Changing the wavelength of a gamma ray would change it to a different type of radiation.
Positrons are not radiation.
A nuclear fission reaction on that scale would be significant because it is what is producing the radiation and it changes the two elements into a new element.
The above would also not produce a positron.
Where does the original article specify this?
The energy can be lost and the meson carry a lower force. The meson can be decayed or fission into a lighter particle ergo partial width. There is also K-Decay but this isn't compatible with the existing GUT model.
Again... Is this specific to the Amaterasu?
They are unstable and their decay products are photons in the 10^12 MeV charge range. I think this is what was intended.
It is entirely possible that the process is not the same as the contemporary method -- There may be a new way to induce a nuclear fission event and new ways to condense the photons with sufficient charge into positrons (since photons are the decay products of positrons) - My knowledge of particle behaviors isn't rock solid but to be honest, neither of us are up to doing the necessary math and examining the model - but it's a well established rule that products can be condensed back into a desired state provided the charge of the system and the level of entropy is reasonable.
And to be frank, if we can manipulate space-time the same way we do a blanket, it is entirely possible that we can control entropy on an extremely small scale through mechanisms similar to the operational functions of a quantum computer (probability logic bias).
The age of nuclear rockets, handguns and crude 60's-esque cybernetics is dead, Uso.
Just let go.
Zack
Inactive Member
Here is where it states that a matter/anti-matter reaction happens between gamma rays and positron.
There is also no mention of energy transfer, just that the energy is destroyed. K-decay isn't compatible with GUT just like how destruction of energy isn't compatible with our understanding of the universe.
Which is what I mean by the article being unclear. Just like how earlyer in the article it says that the weapon fires radiation and the description implies it fires some sort of physical round.
No, there isn't. At least not without violating conservation of energy as when you produce anti-matter you are also stuck with a similar amount of matter which rules this process out entirely.
Zack
Inactive Member
This is the main weapon of the ship, and it is at best poorly described and at wost internally contradictory.
As the main gun is a major part of what a ship does in most RPs, then having a weapon that players and other GMs can't react to because of the above problems is a major issue.
As the main gun is a major part of what a ship does in most RPs, then having a weapon that players and other GMs can't react to because of the above problems is a major issue.
