Kai
Retired Staff
DocTomoe
Exhack
Andrew
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Scribbles
kai
DocTomoe
Scribbles
Doshii Jun
DocTomoe
Uso
https://wiki.stararmy.com/doku.php?id=lo ... ter_series
Behold, the long awaited "Winter" power armor. Please feel free to comment productively and try to help me work out any existing kinks which need to be worked out. If there are none, then may it be approved in a speedy manner.
Exhack
Needs a review. I've been watching the concept for some time now. It's come along quite nicely, I must say.
Andrew
I
am reviewing it. Higher level submissions like this one take time. Just know I am in the process of looking at it.
Scribbles
I have to express my serious concern over the 'History' section of this power armour. Both the events and wording are written (most obviously I might add) to portray the Occhestan faction as negatively as possible. It really seems to me like its using a submission to deliberately tread on rule #1.
Wes wrote:
Members of the Star Army community are expected to abide by the following rules:
1. No Player or Faction Bashing. This is the number one rule because it is the most important. Players must respect fellow players. Being deliberately hurtful to or harassing another player or Game Master will not be tolerated, including remarks made in private or without the victim’s knowledge. Similarly, any player found making hurtful remarks about player factions will be punished. (Added 8/26/07)...
kai
I believe that counts as an IC part of the submission, where the rest of the Lorath really do not like the Occhestans, and thus this rule shouldn't really apply. other weapon/ship/armor submissions have the same kind of stuff, if i'm not mistaken.
DocTomoe
Indeed, these are IC statements, made about IC events. I doubt Rule #1 applies here. Chill Scribbles, and don't go looking for blood when it is not needed.
Scribbles
I'm not looking for blood anywhere.
However, I've not seen any other submissions related in an IC view (with the minor exception of a few quotations added for flavour). Every other description I've come across has at least remained objective.
The designing Lorath being killed in cold blood by a group of his Occhestan colleagues certainly isn't the kind of history you normally see, and it certainly lacks a certain neutrality toward what is even prior to this submission a separate faction. In particular it does its best to paint Occhestans as villains.
I'm also a little skeptical on its portrayal of Occhestan's as cold blooded killers; thats not the common Occhestan style(Occhestans are largely mediators, Philosophers, and Scientists). Being extremely practical people, murder is just too messy and physical. Occhestans would have been more likely to lock him in a broom closet, and walked out with the plans. Or better yet, if we were being particularly devious someone would have put a slave collar on him and erased his memories... then locked him in the closet . The current just doesn't seem to be representative, seems a lot more like Fynneuns to me actually.
But out of respect to other players, GMs, and factions, Occhestan submissions don't have this kind of stuff about other factions. I don't think many other submissions would get far if they were calling say... Yamatians, or Elysians, thieves and cold blooded killers. But hey thats just me.
I stand by my previous statements. Remember the wiki is a resource for players and GMs, not the characters themselves. I hold myself to certain standards, I don't think they're so difficult, but again thats just me.
Doshii Jun
You're also barely around anymore. Take the reigns of your creation back, if you wish to protect them so.
IC descriptions, like those of the Winter, are in Yamatai submissions. The neutrality is at the top part, but when in history or otherwise, bias is in the history portions.
That players aren't aware of that immediately I don't find to be a bad thing, but with this submission, they'll be aware.
EDIT: I'm told by Scribbles that he's only been gone two months, instead of what seems like 5, considering he's not posted much since the site switch. My bad.
DocTomoe
Scribbles wrote:
I'm also a little skeptical on its portrayal of Occhestan's as cold blooded killers; thats not the common Occhestan style(Occhestans are largelyy mediators, Philosophers, and Scientists). Being extremely practical people, murder is just too messy and physical. Occhestans would have been more likely to lock him in a broom closet, and walked out with the plans. Or better yet, if we were being particularly devious someone would have put a slave collar on him and erased his memories... then locked him in the closet . The current just doesn't seem to be representative, seems a lot more like Fynneuns to me actually.
One fact invalidates your entire argument: OCG's orbital bombardment of Fyunnen infantry.
That is all.
Uso
There are still no weapon descriptions.