I've already addressed the template and my reasoning behind my decision in the previous post Frost.
As a NTSE
moderator, why are you ignoring what is stated within the
Submission Rules,
@CadetNewb?
As for the nomenclature, I suspect you're no longer reading the article; it's right under the cost of the ship, which I also discussed with Arieg and approved.
Where does this submission (or any of its sub-articles) list the
proper nomenclature as defined by the
Standard Product Nomenclature System, CadetNewb? Why are you making false allegations about whether or not I've read this submission?
Furthermore, I'm afraid your math regarding this submission's
price is incorrect - 120% of 1,500,000 is 1,800,000, not 1,150,000.
As for Origin Industries, my approval was quite implicit given the fact I haven't raised any issue as its manager.
It doesn't matter if you've given your implicit approval of the submission, CadetNewb, as the
Submission Rules state that
Faction Managers must
explicitly post their approval in a submission's thread.
Meanwhile, the military buildup limitations were meant for nations, not corporations - the moment ONI and Oshima turns into a nation (if they ever do), they'll be subject to that rule.
You missed the point I was trying to make, Cadet - according to the
Submission Rules, combat-oriented starships must be submitted with a civilian starship design or an equipment article for an "enemy"
faction.
[...]
Now, I know you're not the most tech savvy...
Now, I know staff members should not be making personal attacks against other members...
...but Zesuaium and Nerimium don't compare; zesu is immune to anything below plasma, and is resistant to even that. Plus, it doesn't bend or warp at all. Yamatai has to practically give space-time a wedgie to make the stuff.
...but then why do they both have their price listed as "Expensive[?]"
[...] And again, they're an applique weapon; adding them is very easy, and doesn't require any major modification of the hull.
As I stated
earlier, why should every other
faction in the setting have to add hundreds of missiles to their starships in order to keep up with this submission's
blatantly (in my personal opinion) overpowered and questionable amount of firepower?
Even then, ships are perfectly viable without them.
Baloney, as no similarly-sized starship without equally ridiculous amounts of missiles stands a chance against something capable of destroying seven hundred and fifty-two
Plumerias simultaneously - and I'm
scared to know what the
Colonial Pac-sorry, the
Oshima National Industries battleship will have in terms of armament.
*******
This is getting...just wow if I actually told you guys what I think of this I would probably get moderated. You two are just so full of it right now. There are things that need to be done with this article, and you're both too busy trying to prove something to actually touch on the important points.
Not to be rude...but how am I "full of it,"
@Syaoran? I'm merely trying to point out the numerous procedures that CadetNewb - who himself stated that "
the proper procedure must be followed" - did not complete or fulfill.
These are the actual concerns that should be being discussed with this article.
Agreed; in hindsight, I should have probably have emphasized in my
earlier post which concerns had the highest priority.
- Has it's appearance on mobile pages changed? Because what Raz showed is just horrible. It's one thing if it ends up like that and you don't know, but if something like that is presented to the submitter, it should NOT be ignored. (The biggest problem is the positioning and size of the table, so that's not a major issue that would take huge amounts of time to fix)
As I wrote this on my iPhone 4, I can confirm that the article's appearance has not been changed - and I agree: in its current form, its formatting is
painfully bad when viewed on mobile devices.
- Next the number of missiles he has is absolutely irrelevant honestly. If you count the amount of potential DR 'stored' within a ship in the form of bullets and batteries and torpedoes, it's stupid high. What matters is how many individual 'weapons' he has. 5k missiles is nothing if you can only fire 10 at a time. So what needs to be discussed is the fire rate and salvo size. This was mentioned the last time this ship was submitted but it looks like that data found it's way off the page again. (If that VSL pod stuff is it you need to write it out more clearly so people can see at a glance the firing capacity of the ship. Guns have RPM and magazine size, missile tubes should too)
THANK YOU, SYAORAN - THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO CONVEY THE ENTIRE TIME!!!1!!!!!1!!11$:8573?@8/9)jeoqpchalwhzp?~+[€|
...Ahem.
Seriously, though,
that is why I believe this submission is overpowered in its current form, as it - assuming I'm interpreting its article correctly - is capable of launching the following in a
single volley:
Those are reasons this article should not be going through approval yet, and I really think those problems should be solved first.
Agreed.
Things like how much it cost compared to a Plumeria is irrelevant. For one the Plumeria was priced at a different time, it's also a piece of military tech. I also don't see aether on the Indigo..you know, something really expensive. It might be there and I just missed it, but it definitely isn't rocking the Aether shock array for a main cannon.
I agree; the only reason I compared this submission's
price to the
Plumeria's is because both are warships of roughly the same size - and because of the fact that the
Pricing Guidelines apparently only count non-combat commercial vessels as civilian starships.
As a matter of fact, would you mind clarifying this,
@Nashoba? Specifically: For the purposes of the
Pricing Guidelines for High End Commodities, would this submission be counted as a civilian starship or as a military starship?
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