Weapon Template Update

Also I've said this before, but -requiring- art for every faction for weapons isn't great. Cause all that does is make more of a wall to submit.

Syaoran said:

Also I've said this before, but -requiring- art for every faction for weapons isn't great. Cause all that does is make more of a wall to submit.

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I like the idea on the surface, because barriers theoretically force higher quality, but ultimately gotta agree with Mr. Syaoran here. And going even further, that "wall" he's talking about eventually becomes irrelevant at the point people start realizing they can get away with quickly self-made or otherwise low quality DIY art jobs (not trashing on our hobbyist creators, everything right now is great. Just speaking in eventualities).

Art requirements gotta be on a faction-by-faction basis like it is currently.

Clean AF.

Bullet pointed lists are terrible in a 'conveying information to new people' way. There is some amount of listing required though and I think the easiest way to do that listing is one simple line about the part and then having that line link to a sub-article.

Similarly, fluff-text can all be squished together under one heading since you don't really need 'about' and 'history' and 'description' when you can include all of that information in a fluff paragraph or two.

Taken together, we've now consolidated just about everything on the page. This makes the article short and readable. There are only a few 'stats' on the page so at a glance you should be able to pick out the important number values. Rather than having walls of text we should be aiming for a crisp baseball-card style articles. Ultimately it wouldn't be any less text, just that text is now broken up over several pages.

Zack said:

Clean AF.

Bullet pointed lists are terrible in a 'conveying information to new people' way. There is some amount of listing required though and I think the easiest way to do that listing is one simple line about the part and then having that line link to a sub-article.

Similarly, fluff-text can all be squished together under one heading since you don't really need 'about' and 'history' and 'description' when you can include all of that information in a fluff paragraph or two.

Taken together, we've now consolidated just about everything on the page. This makes the article short and readable. There are only a few 'stats' on the page so at a glance you should be able to pick out the important number values. Rather than having walls of text we should be aiming for a crisp baseball-card style articles. Ultimately it wouldn't be any less text, just that text is now broken up over several pages.

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What you just explained doesn't solve any of the problems, it just dances around them. It also doesn't give a single reason as to how this is 'superior' to the current template other than "we've consolidated it", but consolidation is not -always- a good thing.

Zack said:

Clean AF.

Bullet pointed lists are terrible in a 'conveying information to new people' way.

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In your opinion, @Zack; in mine, they're the perfect way for "...conveying information to new people..." due to their simplicity and neatness. If I were a newbie, I know I wouldn't want to waste time digging through a paragraph to find something that could have been easily found within a bullet list.

Zack said:

There is some amount of listing required though and I think the easiest way to do that listing is one simple line about the part and then having that line link to a sub-article.

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As this section demonstrates, "...one simple line about the part..." isn't always sufficient, @Zack.

Zack said:

Similarly, fluff-text can all be squished together under one heading since you don't really need 'about' and 'history' and 'description' when you can include all of that information in a fluff paragraph or two.

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Not everyone is content with writing a sentence or two for the "About", "Description", and "History" sections, @Zack.

Zack said:

Taken together, we've now consolidated just about everything on the page.

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You've "...consolidated just about everything on the page..." @Zack, not the rest of us.

Zack said:

This makes the article short and readable.

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Yes - but at the cost of removing vast amounts of potentially useful information.

Zack said:

There are only a few 'stats' on the page so at a glance you should be able to pick out the important number values.

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The current template already allows for this, @Zack.

Zack said:

Rather than having walls of text we should be aiming for a crisp baseball-card style articles.

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@Wes is the only one who has the authoity to decide what "we" should or should not be aiming for, @Zack.

Zack said:

Ultimately it wouldn't be any less text, just that text is now broken up over several pages.

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That would only make it even more time-consuming to look up information, @Zack.

@Ametheliana, would you mind locking this thread in order to prevent @Zack from hijacking it any further, please? I'm fine with it being moved to the Rejected or Abandoned Submissions sub-forum.

While I'm a fan of 'stat card on the side' I know that Wes isn't so I don't think that it is likely to be widely adopted.

Most of the time when I'm looking at an article I just need one or two pieces of important info like DR or range or somesuch. Being able to see and find this information quickly is a huge plus for me.

Rejected at submitter request.