What does Yamatai first aid cover?

[Rabbit Eclair]

This came up after our JP tonight, and since nobody could give me a real answer on it, I thought I'd bring it here. Now that most Geshrin have switched over to Yamataian and more or less everybody has hemosynthesis, does that more or less remove the need to treat most things that first aid would cover? Also, does a medical officer need to do anything more than plop people in a reconstruction tube and turn it on for more severe injuries?

 

[Yangfan]

Well, on the (planetside) battlefield, sometimes your fellow soldiers will get horribly maimed and/or mangled. Yamataians and NH-29 Nekos can (slowly) self-heal minor to medium flesh wounds, but having nanites in your blood doesn't help too much when, say, you just got your legs blew off.

(A NH-17 is much more, let's say, robust. But we're trying to tone down power levels and phase them out.)

The job of a medic, then, is to make sure that the victim survives until she can be evacuated. Sure, we can almost always bring her back via ST if she dies, but it's an emotionally and physically painful process for many, with a much longer recovery period.

So, no, a medic doesn't have to worry about first aid in the sense that there's no need to carry band-aids around. A medic can still save lives though.

Lastly, the same thing applies on a starship. When the poop hits the fan, there will be more wounded than treatment devices. The medic will have to make split-second decisions on who are the most critically wounded, and get immediate medical treatment, and who can still wait.

 

[Rabbit Eclair]

Gotcha, thanks.

 

[Doshii Jun]

Note as well that Yamataians and NH-29 do not heal at the same rate at the same energy cost.

Newer Yamataian bodies are much more "civilian" than the old NH-22C and have only basic self-healing. They can cure lighter flesh wounds and what not, but it takes a lot of energy out of them, and because they use energy less efficiently than Nekos, they cannot heal as much. Hence why they're not supposed to be direct combatants; your medic would get plenty of exercise here.

NH-29 on the other hand can heal more grevious wounds using less energy. It's still a draining process, but NH-29 can self-heal (as Yangfan suggests) medium flesh wounds and still return to the battlefield.

So in short:

Yamataian: Light wounds/more energy and time.
NH-29: Medium wounds/less energy and time.

 

[Fred]

The NH-29 leaves power armors with the task of providing them greater attack power and endurance on the battlefield. I'd like to point out that Hanako's body survived being eaten through by Bug-type mishhus (with some help from Kotori's blood too).

Another instance of self healing was when Hanako lost her arm in the PNUgen raid: the Mindy armor had helped her regenerate it a bit before she got caught up in the boobytrap.

The same trap cause griveious dmaage to the side of Hanako's head, which also cause bone breakage to which Hanako's body was defenitely able to compensate for (slowly restoring bone).

Yukari, back when she was a yamataian, lost her forearm to a sword. Her self-healing managed to help seal the wound until she got medical assistance, which helped her arm regrow.

Doshii is being too light on the NH-29 self-healing capabilities: a NH-29, with proper nutrients, could lose all four limbs and regenerate them back, bone, cartilage, sinew and all, within 3 days. It's slow, but it is still pretty powerful regeneration.

That's not to say that nekos don't need medical treatment. After all, medical treament can help them heal faster and help them endure less pain (no one likes pain, not even nekos). There are also cases where the nekovalkyrjas would seriously need medical assistance, such as wounds being caused by burns. Also, the nekos regenerative blood supply, while considerable, is not infinite and they can be prone to being depleted. While not as 'powerful' as previous neko models, the highlight of the NH-29 is its resiliency, namely in that regard.

 

[Doshii Jun]

Fred's right. Though my thinking was that of a medic -- A Neko still has to deplete its energy supply (nevermind its blood) to fix itself up, and losing limbs tends to be somewhat debilitating in the immediate nature of war. Nekos can heal those medium wounds and keep going; they lose a limb and shit begins to suck, if you know what I mean. Hence where medics can step in and accelerate the process.

As for Yukari: there've been technical inconsistencies with that character, as she's been through a lot of shit for a Yamataian (and flew really fast for one). So I hesitate to use her for canon purposes, but we kind of wrap it all up as "she was one of the early adopters of the test NH-22C, which wasn't the final Yamataian body".

 

[RaWolfe]

It is quite interesting to see this discussion and how it explains the difference and advantage of the Neko in regards to species in the field of medicine. However, I do think that this is a worthful topic to re-open once again and see to it how first aid affects other species within the Yamatai Empire, but also maybe interesting to explore the medicine side of other species and how they deal with medical conditions. While creating Erina (my new SAoY Doctor), I did quite some exploring and found out that there is certain amount of lacking information to other species.

 

[RaWolfe]

So when looking into this a bit better and see what is logged into our Wiki in regards to medical, I found the following:

• Star Army Medical (Gives insight to the medical job)
• DoMS (NDC) ( Gives insight to the medical service and slightly in their workers)
• Neshaten Medical Corps (Gives minimal insight into medical service)

Thought most species pages reflect to first aid kits, which is perfectly fine. Yet I do wonder how medical care and service are performed in different species. Above is what I found with the conclusion behind it. Now I am not trying to be an ass by saying that nothing is done, but trying to find out why the information that a medical specialist/officer requires is so low on data. Difficult subject? No experience? Internal debates? Or what I also heard, total denial to acknowledge it as it might get to difficult for a regular writer to use it?

Even if the last one is the case, why do we apply energy in military information or engineering information and not on other subjects? Worth to think about in my fair opinion. My goal in this all? To find some foundation in medical in other species that all players can use