- If it's besides the Chen Nebula, word of mouth could have done it. It's not becuase it wasn't on the map so far that it wasn't there and existing. It just wasn't significant until recently, that's all.
- The former Paragon employee, Dean Lang, would have had no IC means of knowing of the Colonial Pact's existence (and vice-versa) due to the distance between the Colonial Pact and the Kikyo Sector and the former's complete lack of contact with the latter.
- USO would have had no IC means of knowing of the Colonial Pact's existence (and vice-versa) due to the distance between the Colonial Pact and the Kikyo Sector and the former's complete lack of contact with the latter.
Here, Wes said what he prefers and what he is "going" to do about the situation.
Oh, that's what you meant.EDIT: Quoting my first post here because Fred demonstrated he didn't read it.
Would the Colonial Pact still be located "below" the map - and what about the points I raised here?
Ah, okay.I dissuaded Arieg from the former.
True - and my apologies - but wouldn't the SSS at the very least have informed Yamatai about the existence of these "human merchants"?
Then wouldn't they have asked said "merchants" for help against the "lovecraftian aliens"? The Colonial Pact, after all, apparently keep one hundred and fifteen warships in Helka Alpha alone.Seeing how 'human merchants' likely operate all around the border everywhere and given how nebula are fairly good spot for ships with matter collection systems to renew their stores, that would have been like saying "Hey, rain is wet." Considering how lovecraftian aliens were being quite successful at working to put an end to the Empire at the time, it seems reasonably plausible to have filed the fact away and moved on without checking further into it.
Maybe those weren't all built back then? Maybe they were mostly grounded back then? Maybe they weren't all that amazing with the tech back then? Maybe those weren't the merchant ships they saw at the time?Then wouldn't they have asked said "merchants" for help against the "lovecraftian aliens"?
Then when were they built? With only a single shipyard at their disposal, building a fleet that size doesn't exactly happen overnight or in a couple of years.[...]
Maybe those weren't all built back then?
Unlikely, given that they were making FTL-capable aerospace transports before the Yamatai Star Empire even existed.Maybe they were mostly grounded back then?
Also unlikely, since most of the weapons listed here were created before YE 31.Maybe they weren't all that amazing with the tech back then?
Then what "human merchants" did the SSS encounter, @Fred?Maybe those weren't the merchant ships they saw at the time?
What better way to win the war than to recruit some new allies?[...] b) SAINT would probably have mostly been occupied helping their Empire win the war.
According to this, Yamatai does know about the Neshaten - and this discussion isn't about "meta" knowledge, @Fred, it's about IC knowledge.And finally: knowledge is actually highly meta in SARP. Yamatai doesn't know about the Neshaten and Ersetu... 'because'. [...]
I agree.Hence my sense that this topic is being nitpicked at and that there's actually a far easier solution to it.
Cool, sounds good to me. Please copy the relevant portion of the main map, paste your systems on to it, and I'll let you know if those work for me. Thanks Arieg for working with others on figuring this out and thank you Fred for tanking a leadership role guiding us to a workable solution.As the FM and or creator of the faction and effectively the only opinion that matters besides Wes's I intend to proceed with the 'Just East of Chen Nebula' placement. With that I would like this thread to be locked until Wes feels the need to post in here.