If people have been waiting a month, they shouldn't complain here; they should contact the NTSE who was handling their project. Or if they've been active and held up for a month, they should contact staff with concerns if the submission isn't progressing.
They shouldn't be complaining about month-long wait times if they're not even trying that much. If you want something approved, then communicate; don't bash and accuse and sling misinformation. It's getting old hearing about the "month-long wait" when I see an entire section of Nepleslia-related articles you claimed with some of them held-up as a result pre-claiming removal for what seems to be mostly format issues on the pages.
In short:
@Zack - since this is clearly about you trying to get your two articles approved, then talk to
@Ametheliana so she can post the checklist. If she doesn't, message me.
Now please stop complaining; I didn't see Ethereal complain when he got held up for formatting and I don't see anyone else complaining. This line of accusatory bias and all this crap isn't befitting of an FM, much less a veteran member. Submissions are not supposed to be hurried; that's how you end up with stubs that get buried or vanish a year later with something replacing them the next. SARP doesn't need to SPEED UP TO THE MAXIMUM AND APPROVE EVERYTHING IN TWO DAYS OHMAGOSH; it needs to approve things fast while
maintaining and improving the overall quality of submissions.
No one is going to care nor should be as so utterly insistent about
missiles that will end up replaced a year from now and never spoken about again.
If you don’t have 10-15 minutes to sit down and do a review maybe you shouldn’t be a reviewer and instead just focus on RP?
Wes said earlier in this thread that he wanted to try and clear out the NTSE over a weekend and that didn’t happen, nor does it look like the NTSE is going to be clear ever with the current policies and reviewers in place.
The NTSE is pretty widely viewed as a terrible experience for players, and you can see that driving enrollment of Ex-SARP players onto other sites. You can see the declining activity rates for nearly every faction backing that up while other sites are having their activity issues resolved by the influx of new players.
It seems so apparent that the NTSE is broke that it seems rediculous anyone is willing to say that it is working as intended.
> Abuses position in NTSE
> Abuses leadership role as an FM by misleading countless new members about the NTSE and effectively abandoning them to improperly approach it
> Insists that if people don't do the reviews in
10-15 minutes that they're unfit to be a reviewer.
Wes wants things cleared out, but how can anyone get anything done when you've non-stopped whined and caused trouble in the NTSE? When you were ACTUALLY NOT COMPLAINING for that sweet period of your very short NTSE stint, things were getting done both by you and others.
Nepleslia has had ZERO issues with the NTSE as a faction; my corporation (Ken-TEC) has had zero issues. Maybe you should try to learn from other members of SARP instead of constantly moan and groan in this thread and derailing what it's for;
improving. It's not for your
whining, complaining, and absurd idea that reviews should be done in 10-15 minute readovers and just walked through the gate.
@Kyle and
@Wes - I'm intending to hit a stint of the NTSE later this week; as of right now, they are the only two submissions in the entire NTSE that have been there for over a month without feedback/ongoing discussion
or a special case preventing them from continuing currently (effectively putting them on hold). In the meantime, I'd like to make a request that Zack be forbidden from posting in this thread as his input is clearly based upon his own intention to harass NTSE members to review his work through this complaining, versus simply speak to them directly. I am almost certain he has not spoken to Ame about either of his submissions otherwise she'd have handed it off to others if she were unable to handle it. Most likely, she forgot about the submissions and Zack - knowing what it could represent - has allowed them to sit and only vaguely complained instead of simply communicate with the NTSE.
I will say it again; communication within the NTSE is key. If you refuse to communicate in any other method than whining and choose to not be civil and direct the NTSE to something you feel has been overlooked, then do not be surprised if the NTSE does not work for you. It works just like any support/customer-based thing; the NTSE are attendants or clerks who can't help you unless they know the problem and what you'd like done.
We need to start enforcing the simple act of communicating with new submitters, otherwise the NTSE will never be resolved of issues and troublemakers and all sorts of messes. When the NTSE talks, the submitters talk, and it's all civil? You have instances like with my submissions or my factions or everyone on the majority who has zero issue with it. When you refuse, you have the countless members that have tried to INSTANTLY GO IN and make the NEXT BIG THING, only to fall flat because their ideas don't work and they ABSOLUTELY REFUSE to talk about anything because they've been instilled with this idea that you should just complain until you get what you want.