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Uniform Updates for the Star Army of Yamatai
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Scot
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Re: Star Army Hat
sigh...
I mean something like this http://www.centurynovelty.com/detail_293_014-66648.html
Besides I doubt most male Yamatain's are muscular or very manly looking compared to other races in the first place. Also because Yamatai is the banner race, a more unique look could go a long ways.
However going for something that looks appealing to females (who are like 80% of the workforce for the military) is more prominent than guys. This is a fem-military, not a male-military which is the point i'm trying to make.
I'm not saying that ALL YAMATAINS have no muscle, but they are hardly ID-Sols in comparison. I'd go with sailor hats otherwise since I'm sure any gundom/anime fan can work with that easy.
Wait, Doshii, when are ship captains have to deal with weather?
Edit: And yet I still can't properly explain myself, which is something of a weakness for me so I'll just step out now...
sigh...
I mean something like this http://www.centurynovelty.com/detail_293_014-66648.html
Besides I doubt most male Yamatain's are muscular or very manly looking compared to other races in the first place. Also because Yamatai is the banner race, a more unique look could go a long ways.
However going for something that looks appealing to females (who are like 80% of the workforce for the military) is more prominent than guys. This is a fem-military, not a male-military which is the point i'm trying to make.
I'm not saying that ALL YAMATAINS have no muscle, but they are hardly ID-Sols in comparison. I'd go with sailor hats otherwise since I'm sure any gundom/anime fan can work with that easy.
Wait, Doshii, when are ship captains have to deal with weather?
Edit: And yet I still can't properly explain myself, which is something of a weakness for me so I'll just step out now...
Re: Star Army Hat
The hats are supposed to be outerwear. So when officers step outside at a base, such as Kyoto Base or something like that, they'd don the hats and coats.
The hats are supposed to be outerwear. So when officers step outside at a base, such as Kyoto Base or something like that, they'd don the hats and coats.
Re: Star Army Hat
Right. A metal tiara seems totally impractical.
Doshii: Yes, I was thinking of a good-looking peacoat in a style similar to the Deviantart image I posted earlier (light shiny buttons and down to just above the knees).
Right. A metal tiara seems totally impractical.
Doshii: Yes, I was thinking of a good-looking peacoat in a style similar to the Deviantart image I posted earlier (light shiny buttons and down to just above the knees).
Re: Star Army Hat
Kind of a blend between a trenchcoat and a pea coat, then. Hmmm! This isn't as polished, but just to provide a real-world example ...
Also, here in brown.
Kind of a blend between a trenchcoat and a pea coat, then. Hmmm! This isn't as polished, but just to provide a real-world example ...
Also, here in brown.
MissingNo
Inactive Member
Re: Star Army Hat
The Elysian military is more Grecian, they should have the laurels-style tiaras.
How about one of these? The site has pictures but unfortunately no labels. They're supposedly of Mongolian and/or Norse influence. I was looking for more Norse-based hats, but in my brief investigation I didn't turn up anything else that was not a helmet, and the Nekowalkyrja could use a little more recognition for the other culture that inspired them (or at least their name!).
Example 1
Example 2
Cute
Close to the Soviet design, but a little less bulky. There is also this design if you want room for logos and rank/other insignia.
The Elysian military is more Grecian, they should have the laurels-style tiaras.
How about one of these? The site has pictures but unfortunately no labels. They're supposedly of Mongolian and/or Norse influence. I was looking for more Norse-based hats, but in my brief investigation I didn't turn up anything else that was not a helmet, and the Nekowalkyrja could use a little more recognition for the other culture that inspired them (or at least their name!).
Example 1
Example 2
Cute
Close to the Soviet design, but a little less bulky. There is also this design if you want room for logos and rank/other insignia.
Re: Star Army Hat
Doshii: The first image looks similar to what I want but it has more of a straight shape whereas the coat I hat in mind as more of a flair at the base. The second one says "NMX" to me, because the NMX like a style of uniforms that are best described as "American Civil War meets Soviet Russia."
Missingno: I like those hats but I think the Ushaka may be the more practical because it has a very similar looking "flaps up" configuration but also the ability to put the ear covers down. As for the Elysian military, it was absorbed into the Star Army (and is now the Tenth and Eleventh Fleets) so they will probably we wearing Star Army hats too.
Despite lukewarm popularity, I still really like the sailor cap. It's is a historic hat worn by practically every major navy in the world until the "dixie cup" style took over. I like that we can put the ship names on it but it's not informal like a baseball hat would be, that it's easily stored because it's not rigid like the tricorne (I would never crush my personal tricornes, or fedoras for that matter) and it looks especially cute on female soldiers but also looks good on men due to its similarity to the beret or a floppy peaked cap without the brim.
The garrison hat looks good too but maybe we should reserve it for starfighter pilots or something. I dunno. It's not as "exotic" as the historic sailor cap because it's in modern use today (the modern feel is kind of Nepleslian territory I think, whereas Yamatai is more ecletic).
The ushanka is good stuff but I don't know it's suitable for the everyday. I'm thinking we'll use it in cold weather.
In summary:
- Probably going with the sailor cap and peacoat for normal outdoor wear
- Ushanka and thick fur coat for cold weather uniform (Snowy neko style)
Peacoat will probably be made of a lightweight material. The real heat insulation will be in the form of a removable liner. It is primarily decorative and anti-rain gear so it can have large shiny buttons. Rank pins worn on the breast for officers and WOs and rank patches on the upper arms for enlisted. Peacoat color will probably be black (though also considering blue-gray). Peacoat would be worn with duty uniforms (not working uniform). This would mean the dark coat would always be paired with light blue stockings or pants. Some changes may be made to standard issue to accomodate this.
The cap will be blue-gray with a black band. I have thought about making it colored by occupation or adding piping or a pin but I'm aiming for simplicity instead. Font will be Gill Sans MT and in gold (can be a less saturated gold perhaps) unless I come up with something better. Ships with Japanese names will have the actual Kanji or hiragana on the hats. Symbols are not allowed on the hat's name ribbon (do you guys think putting stuff on the top of hats at the unit commander's discretion should be allowed?).
The cold weather uniform will be an epic fur coat of some sort, the ushanka, and thick quilted pants with thick fur-lined boots. Because of the war and because it's fur it will probably be hard to come by--harder than the beaver skin tricorne was--so characters have to roleplay with their supply officer to get one.
Thoughts?
PS: Missing's Norse comment made me think of a ship full of soldier wearing horned viking helms, which was amusing.
Doshii: The first image looks similar to what I want but it has more of a straight shape whereas the coat I hat in mind as more of a flair at the base. The second one says "NMX" to me, because the NMX like a style of uniforms that are best described as "American Civil War meets Soviet Russia."
Missingno: I like those hats but I think the Ushaka may be the more practical because it has a very similar looking "flaps up" configuration but also the ability to put the ear covers down. As for the Elysian military, it was absorbed into the Star Army (and is now the Tenth and Eleventh Fleets) so they will probably we wearing Star Army hats too.
Despite lukewarm popularity, I still really like the sailor cap. It's is a historic hat worn by practically every major navy in the world until the "dixie cup" style took over. I like that we can put the ship names on it but it's not informal like a baseball hat would be, that it's easily stored because it's not rigid like the tricorne (I would never crush my personal tricornes, or fedoras for that matter) and it looks especially cute on female soldiers but also looks good on men due to its similarity to the beret or a floppy peaked cap without the brim.
The garrison hat looks good too but maybe we should reserve it for starfighter pilots or something. I dunno. It's not as "exotic" as the historic sailor cap because it's in modern use today (the modern feel is kind of Nepleslian territory I think, whereas Yamatai is more ecletic).
The ushanka is good stuff but I don't know it's suitable for the everyday. I'm thinking we'll use it in cold weather.
In summary:
- Probably going with the sailor cap and peacoat for normal outdoor wear
- Ushanka and thick fur coat for cold weather uniform (Snowy neko style)
Peacoat will probably be made of a lightweight material. The real heat insulation will be in the form of a removable liner. It is primarily decorative and anti-rain gear so it can have large shiny buttons. Rank pins worn on the breast for officers and WOs and rank patches on the upper arms for enlisted. Peacoat color will probably be black (though also considering blue-gray). Peacoat would be worn with duty uniforms (not working uniform). This would mean the dark coat would always be paired with light blue stockings or pants. Some changes may be made to standard issue to accomodate this.
The cap will be blue-gray with a black band. I have thought about making it colored by occupation or adding piping or a pin but I'm aiming for simplicity instead. Font will be Gill Sans MT and in gold (can be a less saturated gold perhaps) unless I come up with something better. Ships with Japanese names will have the actual Kanji or hiragana on the hats. Symbols are not allowed on the hat's name ribbon (do you guys think putting stuff on the top of hats at the unit commander's discretion should be allowed?).
The cold weather uniform will be an epic fur coat of some sort, the ushanka, and thick quilted pants with thick fur-lined boots. Because of the war and because it's fur it will probably be hard to come by--harder than the beaver skin tricorne was--so characters have to roleplay with their supply officer to get one.
Thoughts?
PS: Missing's Norse comment made me think of a ship full of soldier wearing horned viking helms, which was amusing.
Re: Star Army Hat
As a former AF I find myself drawn to the Garrison Aka Flight Cap.
But a discussion on hats needs to determine the when and wherethey are to be worn. In the AF we had multiple hats our 'bus driver' hat with an optional raincover, usually worn for ceremonies and formal activities; garrison hat worn with our blues and by flight crews, utility hat Aka ball cap with utility uniform. We also had a Russian looking hat for winter tha the sides could flip down to keep you ears warm
As a former AF I find myself drawn to the Garrison Aka Flight Cap.
But a discussion on hats needs to determine the when and wherethey are to be worn. In the AF we had multiple hats our 'bus driver' hat with an optional raincover, usually worn for ceremonies and formal activities; garrison hat worn with our blues and by flight crews, utility hat Aka ball cap with utility uniform. We also had a Russian looking hat for winter tha the sides could flip down to keep you ears warm
Re: Star Army Hat
It's your sandbox, Wes. I still think it doesn't look that good on male characters, but as long as there are no tails on it ...
It's your sandbox, Wes. I still think it doesn't look that good on male characters, but as long as there are no tails on it ...
Re: Star Army Hat
Doshii: The votes came out as 2 for the sailor cap, 2 for the garrison hat, and 1 for the Ushanka so I went with the cap based on personal preference, though I'm still open to using the garrison hat in the future...was thinking maybe we should give it to all the fighter and bomber pilots and crewmen (along with a leather bomber jacket and scarf!)
Scot: I'm not sure if you're serious or just trolling, but The idea of faux ears on a professional military hat seems contradictory.
Other uniform update ideas: I'm considering changing the color of the Duty Uniform pants to white and switching from boots to shoes on the duty uniform. Thoughts?
Doshii: The votes came out as 2 for the sailor cap, 2 for the garrison hat, and 1 for the Ushanka so I went with the cap based on personal preference, though I'm still open to using the garrison hat in the future...was thinking maybe we should give it to all the fighter and bomber pilots and crewmen (along with a leather bomber jacket and scarf!)
Scot: I'm not sure if you're serious or just trolling, but The idea of faux ears on a professional military hat seems contradictory.
Other uniform update ideas: I'm considering changing the color of the Duty Uniform pants to white and switching from boots to shoes on the duty uniform. Thoughts?
Frost
Inactive Member
While I myself am not much for Yam, I would have to say go with either the Ushanka or the Garrison cap. The navy one is kind of weird and not very professional looking (this is the military we are talking about), and The Star Army would become the laughing stock of the galaxy if they used the Tricorne. Take it from someone whose been in Service, the military isn't always supposed to be unique, and often the only real difference between factions is the flag they wave and maybe the color of uniform
